the addons are not even close to automatic group finder, and the leader, can actually decide who he invites or not, based on class compositions and level/spec.
All they do is parse the LFG channels, and post in them
Because according to some, spamming “LF1M Tank for WC” for 1.5 hours early in the morning and then having to disband is such a great social experience.
The difference is by clicking a button and joining LFG you will already be disjointed from the chat and most likely you will get into the group, get TPd there, do the dungeon in silence then leave.
In retail you have to actually work to find you group which builds meaning full work as you have to actuall put some effort and scan the chat to find a group, thus once you’re in a group it’s more fullfilling because you “finally got that party together” instead of being afk on twich waiting for a queue to pop.
once you’re in the group you’re already “in the chat”, more likely to talk to someone and building meaningful relationships. Since you don’t want to lose all of the work you did to get the group you’re less inclined to be toxic and this is one of the reasons the “classic community” is such a phenomenon.
The meaningful work leads to meaningful relationships and those keep you playing the game instead of retail LFG carnival simulator where you stand in line to get on the ride, ride it in silence then step of and go to another one.
I am with you, I am against the extended form of LFG-system which is dungeon finder that introduced cross realm and teleportation. However, I have no idea why people are so stubbornly against a filter of chat, basically anyone can automatize it jesus christ, this is actuall a QOL that is not game breaking. LFG-system existed in TBC and pre-tbc patch in Vanilla yet nobody used them.
By putting time into creating group you get far more invested. Being more investes casue you care more about your group and people you play with which leads to social intearctions. It isnt possible to have such social dynamic in game with covinienc like lfg tool. Like i dont get why people still dont get it. Go log in into bfa and do dungeon than do same in classic. Difference is huge.
And not even mentioning if you make finding players for dungeon covinient those people will become easly replacable which again leads to apathy and creates toxic enviroment where people will just kick you out becouse you nees cloth as resto shaman and mage got mad. Nobady will do this in game with no lfg becouse it would take lot of time to replace this player.
Nothing wrong with that. It was not in vanilla, so it should not be in Classic, but people should be able to make addons. ClassicLFG addon works just fine and I’m sure that it’ll continue to work despite Blizzard’s statements about it.
At least i know people put effort making the group if they have to shout in chat for hours.
No lazy bums who just pressed one button and sat hand in their pants for next 5 mins just waiting and getting teleported to dungeon, 0 effort.
And that is a load of bs. I have almost the same social interactions when making a group for M+. Also I’ve had similar low level dungeon social interactions when using LFG in BFA, and I’ve had non social dungeon runs in Vanilla.
If you think no1 ever gets replaced over anything then you’re living in a fantasy world. Groups I’ve been in have for instance kicked many people for ninjalooting, being afk without saying anything etc. Also thinking Classic is less toxic makes me think you’ve never played Vanilla.
And by that I mean there is no difference between the manual LFG system and spamming the lfg channel. So not the automatic one. The LFG system we currently have in BFA, the one used for M+ for example and pug raids, is pretty much the same thing, and the only people arguing otherwise are just doing it for the sake of arguing, and you won’t be able to reason with them.
Behave with this bullsh!t, it took 3 hours to get a group for a dungeon yesterday. That’t not fun, people are here to have fun not “work” when I work I get paid…
Too many people with this type of attitude, we need something to reduce:-
1), Global spamming for groups in general / trade chat
2), Something to help get groups together faster so people can spend time enjoying the game
Maybe people play for different things, but I didn’t come to WoW Classic to play Party Finder Simulator…
I’m not saying they need to bring an LFD tool into Classic but I have had to smile at the notion that spamming a channel LFM or LFG is somehow social. It isn’t.
It’s a dull chore we perform and all just faff about questing until our group is full and we then head to the dungeon. The leader of the party is stuck spamming.
Our groups don’t do any checking, we just take the willing volunteers. Not all groups are chatty in dungeons either. Some are, some aren’t. That goes for any activity in game IMO.
No one is preventing other group members to find missing roles to fill.
And i quess if you’re the type of person who just answers LFG with “inv plz” then no, i quess it isn’t social.
I write whole sentence, and that alone is one more sentence i have to write in retail to join in group…
And 9/10 times, i get hailed by group members. It’s not huge social experience but counts as social interaction. Something that i personally haven’t seen in retail since… hmm… cata?