Theres a new wave of premades

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Not a great attitude, and you are still proving my point, it is a player’s issue. I might not be the greatest player but I can assure you that with the right encouragement, things can be turned around, you’re just not believing in it, you’re probably better than this, yet you still prove my point, you simply lack motivation and you need to be inspired by something to improve on these things, consider finding a community of like-minded players that are wiling to listen to your calls in how to counter these groups.

I had the privilege to lead a raid and defeat Zado and Nepha with people that I don’t know, I simply instructed and people listened, now, I don’t consider to be the best leader since I am learning it more but if everybody putted their grain of sand on it, together, you can achieve great things, and some horde ‘premades’ really queue with a max of 5 players only and still execute calls flawlessly. Like for example Simeoa, which in my experience, he only queued with 3 people at the most? (but perhaps I could be wrong, but that’s beside the point.)

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This is complete bullsh*t, alone that you write this tells me that you have no clue abt the whole topic. :joy:

And Larkus mercing quite often, I dont speak about anyone else here, what are you even talking abt.
Like I said, go into epics and tell THEM.

And I hope you learn one day that youre not so important as you think you are.

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Yeah, morale is not a thing and crying about alleged premades is a good strategy to motivate the team.

sigh

Have a nice evening. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Yea man, logic is not yours, I get it.
You too. :slight_smile:

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What a bunch of clowns in this thread.

Suuure the anime power of friendship and determination will allow the random PUG to overcome the material advantage (premade coming in full conquest gear) and skill advantage (for elitist premades).
“Just don’t be a defeatist”.
Suuuure.

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You have a very narrowminded mentality.

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Mock all you want, this is why you guys are the victims.

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I see you flying brother!

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You are probably the least interesting individual, that’s why people don’t take you seriously, you are up in arms about what is going on, moan about how unfair things are, but you don’t even try to incentivise the community to organize a community that can fight back a premading community.

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Sure, and you with your “you are victims” and “you with your bad mentality” will be taken seriously.

Literally the most stupid thing to do, making a community and doing the same bullsht everyone hates.
And dont come with “you can just snipe them” or whatever, if you get them fine, if you dont you have two choices…either you cancel and ruin the game for your own side by starting with a half filled group, or enter and stomp the randoms the same way like they do. :man_facepalming:
Btw, I was “fighting back” at the start with good m8s, but most of them quitted the game because they were tired of this crp.

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Jokes on you, a handful of people share my sentiment.

Utter nonsense, since I don’t queue sync in the group I play with Fistus, and even if he isn’t playing, I generally play alone whenever I have the chance, so do spare the utter nonsense, please. If I’m not playing EBG I either queue alone in Normals, or occasionally join other friends up to 5, respecting the game as Blizzard intended.

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OMG…and a handful of people share mine.
And now?

Did you even understand what I wrote?
I didnt accused you of sync premading, I just said your suggestion of building a community and gather people to fight the premades is bullsh*t, since I dont want to do myself, what I’m against.

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It is not.

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so we go into hangar, we fight, we lose the fight
games goes into the direction of team winning hangar lets say, yes?
this was df ending season meta at least

we go into, 1 hour turtle, and MAYBE and i say MAYBE we do win that one
its way more often we don’t, and first tf is almost the game (this also applies to many other matches)

next bg, u encoutner a premade, u go to hangar, u get literally run into the ground in 5 seconds, 10 ppl instantly quit

u really think out of trhe 30 everyone is going to do their best to win, im betting (aside from the 5 whom were either entering late or alreeady alt tabbed leeching) that 10 more will be at peace with losing the game, 2-3 will spam bg chat about what to do, all with different plans

its gonna become a 15 minutes defeat
and its gonna repeat at every hangar lost pretty much

this is the same as league of legend, there is many games that starts off even decently, but then they are lost to the most bs at 40 minutes, and most people wont take in the “well, i had 30 minutes of fun at least” but more “this all amount to nothing”

which is why so many people are prone to give up uickly games that are theoretically winnable, i mean, all games technically are if everyone has that mindset, but half team wont have non of it, and some games are legit gonna look unwinnable with numbers, like, first tf, then u check see 1 healer vs 5, half team less than 600IL most enemy team 620+
i really can’t blame ppl that much for giving up, personally, i used to be a never surrender kind of players, but obviously, since most people say im terrible at the game and yet they will literally permatarget me and run at me with pocket healers and cc chains for the next 10-15 mins, i cba too

im not gonna be able to ninja cap anythijng, ppl just always look where im at, what i do, where i go, and often will just sap 3x, blind, garrotte/cheapshot chain, with 2-3 mores im limited by how much nerfs mage ate in this expansion and i cannot even try any crazy play since TWW mage is more about ninjacap than bursting down ppl

so yeah, i confess i do give up games when i see im not gonna be able to change the outcome at all

one thing i agree with you, is factionless bgs which is prob a better way to say “cross faction bg” when i mention it everyone tells me we have it, and i obv don’t mean crosfaction grouping, but literal 1team A or Team B

that and limit groups to 3… and maybe enforce bidgger penalties for leaving matches when game is already started, or force teamcomps to stick to mirrors…

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Are you really saying its rare again for alliance to face sync premades?
Are you sure there are absolutely no other sync premade leaders in horde? At all?

In my experience, before I outright just quit bgs due to the infestation of sync premades, like I said before, I faced sync premade 5 out of 5 times. Zenie, Alfo or whatever that guy is called and I believe Zado together with alot of well known sync members. A special hunter, a special rogue etc.

I did not face the same amount of sync when I played as horde. Just the horde ppl were just worse players in general. There is a reason why you said before that you rarely faced a sync premade yourself. Like 2/10? I would still play to this day if those were the odds of not facing a sync premade.

But, when it comes down to it, both sides are equally as whiny.
People whined when I played horde. People whined when I played Alliance.
When you face a sync premade too many times, obviously that will continue even if that person somehow got a brain and started doing only up to 5 man premades. Dont have to be a genius to understand the psychological issue they have already caused to a depleting bracket.

You also have to understand, the “defeatist” culture have been going on for a long time. Its not something new. The issue is when less ppl play the more you will get them. Those ppl even exist in PvE.

I can say I am very tired of having 1-2 healers on my side and facing 6-8healers on the other side with alot of boomie/mm hunters.

Its both.
While it is a “good” idea to build something to counteract other sync premades, you are at the same time adding more issues to the problem itself.
And if they rly want to, sync leaders can avoid eachother.

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Disable the Premade functionality or let them play in their own premade bgs - its been months and all random games are unplayable because of those griefers

Saddest part of this is that blizzard doesnt care and refuse to take action just ignoring the problems and letting small group of ban evading TOS breakers to kill the whole part of the game

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Admittedly haven’t touched EBGs since Drex left, but I’ve never done this.

How did your Outland event go?

Yeah, if the leader is zealous enough, his enthusiasm alone can change the outcome of the BG. Drex would do that too (before he just started syncing).

It is the only viable player solution to the problem. We can discuss what Blizzard could and should do (and probably won’t), but joining a community is the only thing we players can do to counter enemy communities.

5+ already is disabled, the sync communities circumvent this. 5 and less is fine - if that is disabled, those that PvP with friends will stop doing so and the PvP playerbase will shrink.

Spreading the playerbase into too many brackets (premade bracket, no premade bracket) increases wait times.

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Nobody cares, you and your community should be banned