Our guild was playing non stop from Legion. Yes players was elaving but we have people who was playing from classic/tbc era. So we still invite new one and old ones teach them. But now we have total of 15 active members max. There is second guild that accept players on my realm but lots of them are very toxic so we kick them from our guild.
Rember famous devs words.
âYou think you do, but you donâtâ.
I always think that I want do raids but probably I donât.
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Those mega youtubers are not the community either, they are usually a sample 1 with a few fanbois that parrot them. The BEST case scenario is that they represent well a specific niche of a community and not all of it (e.g. the unsubbed people of wow when it gets to wow haters currently).
This is nothing uncommon. Most guilds appear to survive only a couple of years because their leaders may unsub because generally in this game very few people play more than 1-2 years non-stop (and that was true since vanilla (or ironically: it was probably MORE true the earlier you go since people were younger and switched games faster)).
In fact: if you find a guild that exists for more than 3 expansions (with a similar roster): itâs EXTREMELY rare (itâs rare even when you find the same guild-master for more than 5 years).
Youâre being rude, who are you to judge.
They make content and provide solutions and streaming, while youâre here writing a whole negativity thread about them.
Those mega youtubers as you say, have provided solutions and were loved by many but theyâre still out of touch.
And to be honest, I donât blame them either for talking negativity about the game, Iâd do the same if it was me.
Iâve been watching belluar/asmon/preach for far too long, I know the feeling of waiting, exciting for new patch/expansions, hoping for some changes.
You are clearly missing the point then and why FF is a lot better for casual audience
I think you are chucking casual all together as one group.
Saying that, might be my perspective, Iâd trade both for an active Dark Age of Camelot.
If YouTubers and streamers bother you so much, I strongly suggest you stop watching them. Donât pay attention to them, donât let them affect you. Many wow players survive just fine without watching these people and without caring about them one way or the other 
My husband hate-watches Bellular videos and I just donât get it - why would you want to spend time watching something thatâs going to make you angry?
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Being rude? They make millions monthly (or weekly) with bad interpretations of incomplete data and clickbaits aimed to children.
Do not spend your time working for them.
like 10 bigest wow-youtubers plays New world rader then FF14 
next week youtube will be full of New world videos when beta is open once again âŚ
Woops, that didnât age well since it wasnât found to be true! :3
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Yes. Rude.
And how did they make millions? Theyâve advertised the game for far too long and what did they get? Of course hate from the community and the devs themselves.
And it wasnât clickbaits theyâve inspired me to work on my collection and enjoy raiding and play the game overall.
And I donât work for them, just because I watch their stream for entertainment doesnât mean I work for them.
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Sorry, âstreamingâ yourself playing a game or publishing opinion pieces are not âcontentâ. If it is, then OP is a content creator in the first place which nullifies a lot of your points.
Yeah people that watch them tend to have trouble thinking for themselves on these topics, I thought so.
Just an FYI, both Asmon and Bell have been far more rude to game players and devs than anyone have been to them. Not to mention their fanbase, like you are tenfold worse.
If you think a channel with 500k subs makes millions every month, or even every week, then you donât get to call people naive. Youâd have to increase that sub count tenfold to even get close to making seven figures a month.
But who am I kidding, youâre so self-unaware itâs not even funny anymore.
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Oh look the forum witch-hunter is here to start his daily personal attack because his narcissistic rage canât stop him doing so.
He is so delusional that now supports that Asmongold doesnât make millions by making clickbaits for children.
Bel may not make millions in weeks like asmon but they can do it in months (they are a whole company).
I do think theyâre being a bit hyperbolic, but Asmongold makes a lot more money monthly than Hasan who just bought a 3.3M house. Between the deals they get from Twitch(Amazon owned) and the amount of money they get from both subs and donations a million a month for someone whoâs AVERAGE viewercount is 93k for streaming isnât a stretch considering people did the math for Hasan and found about a mil a month from subs and donations isnât a high number to reach. That doesnât even count Youtube revenue either, thatâs just his stream numbers not counting his SECOND twitch channel.
What are you talking about? Asmon makes millions in weeks because he is THE MOST POPULAR STREAMER ON THE ENTIRE TWITCH and bel may do it eventually too since theyâre an entire company with sponsors etc.
As I said: stop working for those people for free: they give you nothing.
Reading your post makes me remember how much i despise that cance* which is that.
Thanks for once again be a reminder of why i wish we could just permanently get rid of this garbage that has brought so much nonsense and crap into literally everything (including games). That NO ONE asked for.
EVER.
Isnât it interesting that their followers often donât want to believe their idols are filthy rich? But itâs nothing weird that asmon is super rich. Weâre in a world of billions and he is the most popular streamer of the most popular mmorpg ever created so of course he can make a few million in the span of only weeks.
WoW doesnât need them or their 10 year old fanboys. i wish blizzard was man enough to ban so called âinfluencersâ but nope. they will return to milk WoW players.
Asmon definitely is, Bel makes good money but definitely nothing near millions a month. Asmon is also one of the heads/creators of OTK which increases the amount of money he gets, but I still donât think itâs million or more a week at least looking at the evidence. Monthly sure, not to mention the deals they get but people were shocked at how much money the higher tier of streamers get for sure.