But for new players who starting on era, they can make easy gold so they would have 40 level mount ready with no problem.
Go to westfall → kill birds → collect light feathers → sell them for 1g each → at level 15 you already got 100 gold, can buy all spells at trainer + get mount at 40.
Oh honorable mention, collect magic dust in westfall, sell for ~30g each, I sometimes do this while waiting for battleground queue.
just play self found on Hardcore - problem Solved
…yea no!
Imagine a party with friends or … guild members, start to put handcuffs to a player “suspected of botting”. That will be be biggest troll ever lol.
Yeah and you dont see that u can get gold from quests at 60 immediately not almost 1.5y after release or how dungeon runs even with freshly hit 60s take about an hour instead of 3-4hr.
Noooooooone of that matters right? People who buy an epic mount a few days after hitting 60 MUST be buying gold LMAO.
I was there in 2005 as well and i remember PvPers farming tyrs hand for money instead of non elite mobs (ANY) that actually drop something thats worth selling lol.
I created Hunter on Pyrewood eu classic era. I bought mount as soon as I reached lvl 60 because I sold herbs and was lucky to find 3 black lotuses and 3 golden pearls
I laughed at myself when the first fresh classic servers launched and I went through the Lock Quest chain for the Lock Mount in DM West
Way more expensive than just buying the epic mount in Brill
If you have not got 1000g at level 60 its because you have been wasting your money on unnecessary minor upgrades in AH along the way
Why would they want to invest in more GM’s to investigate bots?
What are they going to do - pay a GM a minimum of £12 per hour plus corporate costs to ban a bot paying a £10 monthly subscription every hour or so? The math don’t add up.
You guys have a completely skewed sense of reality.
Why do you hate the bots/
because they farm gold, or because they farm gold and sell it to people who can afford it to give them an advantage in the game?
A bad player is not going to benefit from all of the best gear - they will sub-parse and die
It seems this endless BOT argument and discussion is a needless distraction - ignore it - move on and play your own game
It is up to Blizzard how they police the game because it is their game
If you don’t like it - stop playing
If you continue to play - stop crying about the same old tired topics on the forums - it is boring
Gdkp is a problem, it lets players who have no business gearing mythic dung gear buy runs to get said gear, then they go in 5 mans and fail bc they dont know what they’re doing bc they bought the gear!!
You think thats ok ?? Nope no and nahhhh its not.
Just bc you farm gold like a pro or buy tokens it doesnt mean you should get the best without knowing how to get it.
Yh some guilds have hardcore rules bout joining etc but there is always going to be ppl that will let you prove your good enough.
Fact is if you dont have the skillz then you shouldnt he able to buy drops using gold … unless theyre boe.
Except that the playing field isn’t equal.
Ideally everyone has the same potential, merely based on skill and hours invested.
AH is the pure example, but let’s go GDKP.
Assume I earn well (US and West EU, rest of the world are worthless slaves, myself included) so I can buy a lot of gold. So what happens, you come to a raid, you put in your time and effort to kill the bosses, and I take everything.
Yes, yes, you get petty gold, but I’m the only bidder.
Besides, next week another me will bid higher.
Sure, I’m 117% advocate of pure personal loot, but there is some trading in these games, so RMT players always win. Back to the AH, since RMT players can sweep the market, regular players have no access to goodies due to their supply-demand price. They are just farmers. Slaves.
Simply put, extra gold in the market means inflation, but “play your own game” i.e. farm creatures and complete quests has a static gold amount. Meaning that non-RMT people get comparatively more and more poor.
Also, bot master detected.
There is an easy way to stop bots.
Make gold non tradable, maybe allowable on an account wide basis for your own alts.
“Nah, they’ll just use the AH”
Well then they’ve just advertised themselves. The auction house will let Devs easily see who is selling/buying huge amounts of gold on very random items. 5k on a Large Tooth, really?!
I guess the downside is it’s stops gdkp as well, oh well to bad.
That said, I’d have no issue with a properly implemented gdkp from blizzard that’s controlled server side. Again though that’ll mean certain groups of players not getting pots of gold to sell on…oh well.
Short version, keep the ban and just play the game. Find a guild, start a guild beat the boss get the loot, rinse and repeat.
Have fun
Bit unsure what you’re implying here, but the vast majority of players who enjoy GDKPs do not sell gold. GDKPs don’t generate gold or introduce gold into the server, that’s what bots do. And bots are going to be on every server regardless of what loot system is allowed. If given the opportunity people will always buy gold, if not for gear then to skip the grind for mounts, boosts, consumables… you name it.
That said I’m not a big fan of GDKPs myself. However, seeing so many people on these forums having misconceptions about it, or blaming people for RMT when they just enjoy a different loot system than you do, makes me sad.
Ok explain how it works then.
Edit:
I’m not saying they generate gold. It is on paper just a loot system.
However, it does shift the ownership of gold and it requires gold in the first place.
I don’t know how folks have enough for a level 40 mount let alone gdkp at 60. My conclusion is they go down dark pathways for it…
X amount of people go into a group with Y amount of gold. At the end, some of this gold has changed hands - some players are richer in gold, others have earned new pieces of gear. There’s just as much gold at the end of the raid as there was at the start.
Yes, some idiots will buy gold to enter this kind of raiding. Just as people buy gold on fresh now for boosts and mounts and consumables.
I don’t play GDKPs much myself, but I have no problem with people inventing creative ways to distribute loot. In the case of GDKP, all players have actually earned something in the end, unlike in other loot distribution systems.
Regarding the edit: I have 25K gold on era, self made of course. Making gold in an economy with inflation like that is easy, and earning your mount is a breeze compared to fresh.
So you got 25k gold on era where gdkp exists.
And it’s hard to get gold on fresh where gdkp is banned…
Also I think you underestimate the “some” in that summary of gdkp.
I agree, on paper it’s just loot distribution and that by itself is fine.
But until you can fully remove the gold buying from it, it’s always going to be an incentive for players to buy gold.
No gdkp, no incentive, simple.
Now if there was a server side gdkp system, would you run it? Instead of getting a share of the gold you can just bid and get the gear.
Would gdkp still exist if it was purely just for loot?
I kinda feel it wouldn’t because nobody gets gold out of it, as per my point earlier where the gold is taken from the many, goes to the few and is sold on.
GDKP is bad and you should feel bad for buying gold to participate in it.
GDKP runs on % of gold people have overall. If everyone has on average 500 instead of 2500 then the amounts will be lower but usual % the same.
Those that know how to make gold, how market works will make a lot of gold. RMT is for those that either have no idea or are greedy/lazy. GDKP would allow a flow of gold from both of those groups into “commited to DPS” parsers 
Incentives are strong on Anniversary, especially PvP realm where more people is “pressured” not to miss raid resets and have bis, have parses, have everything or “else”. RMT for boosts, then consumables, then even potentially RMT raid that will look like a PUG without trading gold.
Then who would be the pumper? Often pumpers use this gold to dump into PvP ranking or into boosting and gearing their alts. If you make simple system that is buy raid loot with gold without a raid then it will be simple RMT-to-win. (and without pumpers the raid won’t get cleared).
Ooo good point, remove those parsing websites too
I don’t think knowing a market helps when the market is brand new, nobody has money to trade.
Except certain sources of course. They have gold to trade but it’s not through in-game means.
But unless I wasn’t clear, gdkp on paper is fine IF you can remove the gold buying.
However I suspect if you remove the gold buying you see way less gdkp runs.
Some already have thousands of gold. Getting my 60 mount wasn’t a problem. In comparison to OG classic launch this time I’m making way more gold from devilsaur leather than thorium bars… And people are selling and buying edgemasters for 900+ gold on a PvE Realm on minority Horde 
Those that can play this 20 years old game are stacked.
Selling hundreds of Gingerbread cookies wasn’t as lucrative but still fun to farm small eggs in… Darkshore with two 30+ level shamans which likely got most of their mount money from that. Moonkins were dying so fast they entered near-hyperspawn mode
During TBC the BEST complaint I saw is that it’s to expensive… from a freshly dinged warrior, “true” TBC/vanilla player according to the post, that 5 weeks into second tier of TBC raids really dreamed of full set… yet he doesn’t have gold for GDKP, PUGs don’t take people in greens… while he didn’t even took into consideration pre-gearing through older raids that had free PUGs or dungeons…
People will always be upset about pixels.
Basically then the desire to rush content quicker than it’s released is the problem.
For that we can blame social media.
So, you’re selling leather, all good that’s easy for you to get to and have setup. All it requires from you is to be leveled and have skinning leveled.
Selling those mats makes you gold but where is that gold coming from for those buyers?
You get up to 2k gold from late questing if you save bit more quests for level 60. Dungeon spam adds on top of that.
Which is the easiest thing to do in WoW. The gatekeeper for devilsaur leather is have a class that can solo them early on
And alchemy/fishing is my endgame $_$