Well then I guess I’m part of the 10% that only logs in to do naval missions or stand in my garisson watching my character dance for about an hour. Ayy I’m special ^^
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In an ideal world, yes. Out of mind, out of sight would be a very reasonable compromise I feel. But unfortunately that’s not the case on Argent Dawn. Having spent the last 2 or so weeks in Darkshire due to IC circumstance and story leading my character there, I can’t remember a single night without several instances of varying levels of griefing ranging from active harassment to lack of self awareness, albeit good intentions on the OOCer’s part. That’s just one RP hub out of many.
Something’s gotta change because the ideal world we want isn’t happening right now.
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And that is alot better than the alternative and considerate and all, but there is still the issue that when you still have people who might be like you and just minding your own buisness, but still in the thousands, that does attract more and more of the other crowd by simply being there and either activly or passivly “promoting” that it is acceptable to just roll up with no intention of RPing whatsoever.
I think it’s neither positive nor negative, like joining just about any server. Once you try messing with people you could say you are only bringing negative influence.
Are you by any chance talking about the high level gankers? I tried fighting them but unfortunately, since I main heals, I can’t exactly kill anyone by myself.
…what about items on the AH?
No, I’m talking about players of the same faction actively using toys, spamming yells and mounts over RPers. Not much you can do about them but report, and it rarely leads anywhere.
That’s a difficult one for me, on one hand, they are griefing you and trying to ruin the game for you, which warrants having them removed from the site, but on the other hand players can’t exactly claim a part of the map as their own space in an online game, which is most likely why the reports don’t do anything.
Blizzard creates servers, PvE, PvP and also decides to make one for a niche group of players, RP.
Niche group hops onto the server and enjoys the benefits and the rules of the server.
Non-niche players come to the server (first server on the list, other friends joining, wanting to grief) and increase over time.
Niche group starts realizing that the purpose of the server is muddled and ignored, as their benefits and rules are being sidestepped.
Non-niche group sees no issues with this, because of…?
EDIT: Yeah, I don’t know either. I generally just don’t get what the benefits are for rolling on an RP server and not on a PvE server if your main motive to play the game is the video game itself.
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I rolled on AD with the intent of roleplaying but abandoned it at some point. Now I don’t want to spend money on a transfer or start from scratch on a new realm. Is that an unusual situation or?
Oh definitely not. I mean, I started on Darksorrow long ago and transferred for roleplay to Argent Dawn. Then I lost all interest in roleplay from 2008 - 2014ish, but stuck around doing game content and got back into roleplay eventually.
I do think that if you understand what roleplay is and have a bit of common decency, you get people like you - not disruptive, out of sight - but that hasn’t been the case for almost years now.
Blizzard could do a few things - for example, open up free transfers off AD for non-RPers to get off. But even then I highly doubt everyone would take the offer.
I thought about something like this too. People have been calling for bans, which I think is a little extreme, especially since I’m sure plenty of people aren’t aware of the damage they are doing. Maybe forced transfers are more appropriate, although I’m not sure how they would pull something like this off properly, especially with the amount of alts some people might have.
Whatever the solutions would be, there’s still a few things we can do right now.
- Common decency
- Understand what roleplay is, even if you’re not roleplaying
- Keep nagging Blizzard for solutions (servers, sharding, transfers)
- Common decency
- Did we mention common decency?
But unfortunately people enjoy generating salt, people get their fun from ruining others fun, people get their kicks from five seconds of fame on Twitch. Thus, the original and current customers of these servers can’t be blamed for returning vitriol back…
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An analogy I have explained on this or another thread before; aimed at the newcomers.
RP realms are playgrounds. PVE realms are dog parks.
You can take your dog for a walk in the playground. There’s no issue, some kids may even enjoy it.
But the moment one dog defecates into the sandbox, people will become unwelcoming to those that don’t walk their dogs in the dog park.
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I get it. If I got someone griefing my dungeon or something I’d get pissed too. I wasn’t aware before of all this before the recent storm of griefers, so it probably seemed like I was trying to excuse that kind of behavior, which wasn’t my intention. I just don’t want to be on the receiving end of the vitriol either.
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I think youre safe buddy.
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I think role playing @ the mythic boss instead of actually playing your class is a good way of putting it if the roles were reversed
For a pure PvE server/guild it would be an actual raid, for the role playing community that raid is the open world and it is going on at all times
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Tbh the issue is usually inflated around here. Like when they demand a permaban for 20 minutes of griefing, or when people mass-report OOC names (which makes reports become less important).
While it’s true that harassment and griefing should get punished, it’s also true that OOC players have all the right to be on the server, and are members of argent dawn just like a role-player.
Only you and a select few see it that way.
You’re the minority here buddy, your vision of reality isn’t shared across all of the active RP community.
Big brain centrism promoting the decay of a server’s niche interest. Jesus what a bunch of nothing words.
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I think those demands where in the heat of the moment when people where still mad, it definitely was kind of like a “natural disaster” for a lot of people at the time lol. I don’t think bans are appropriate either, and it’s not like Blizz would ban people who are giving them money every month if they technically haven’t broken any rules. I do understand the general frustration with it though, the lag was really annoying, but people who farm the content have no incentive to stick around if it’s that bad, unlike the people who base their story off of being in SW. I already proposed somewhere else that people could have just moved to a different city, but I didn’t realise then how seriously people take their RP, so that probably doesn’t cut it for a lot of people.
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