People used to swear a lot, then we got to the Victorian age, where people still swore a lot but pretended they didn’t and ‘cleaned up’ the past.
But heck I do factory work, went in as very polite, found that the sweetest, most apple cheeked, grandma faced old dears have mouths fouler than a Tarintino movie.
As for none Human races swearing in Common like the humans well…
Who do you think they learned Common from? Probably soldiers right? Or adventuerers? Maybe sailors?
Can’t say those three groups strike me as the most polite and genteel of folks to be honest.
Catholic church inspiried paladins doing the next inqusistion and crusade and so on, ignoring the various (massive) differences between what they are apeing and what the organisation in lore is.
On the swears topic. Sure people can swear all they like. Some of them will raise questions like ones grounded in Christianity but other terms like F bombs, sure why not.
If the argument there is “Normal people do it” then most people I know who swear a lot realise that people look down at them because of the amount they swear. It’s not a good look and unless you like running without only, with lack of a better way to put it, disreputable types chances are the constant knowing that people are, in respect, shunning you will eventually lessen your use of curses.
Also you can get in trouble if you shout curses if you roll with the “In real life” argument.
I think swearing can be done, but you should not overdo it, and if you do, try and avoid modern slang as much as possible, because an F- or a C-bomb breaks immersion rather fast.
A simple ‘damnit’ I think is fine. I also try to take into account the race I am playing on the few accounts that I do have the character swear. My paladin for instance might say ‘Uther’s beard!" whereas when it’s my Dark Iron, he’ll say something like ’ By Ragnaros’ flaming hammer!".
So yeah, just don’t overdo it, and only sparingly in moments where it really counts. Swear too much and it just becomes a buzzword.
Hmm, I agree with this. I was in a Guild where the majority of people would use the F word or “sh!t” - but it wasn’t every once in a while, it was frequent and the immersion broke down.
I don’t mind the occasional use of the “b” words, as we’ve seen with characters like Sylvanas, Maiev, Garrosh and almost Kael’thas, use them, but it was few and far between.
As you say in your post, please don’t overdo and overuse the swearing. It’s not grand.
For my own personal list in order from worst to less bad it’s probably the following:
Pretty much like what Loras mentioned early on, people who are soley out for their own amusement, at the expense of others. This can be anything from just activly disrupting for other people by trolling others roleplay, or just acting like complete douches with a clear OOC factor behind it. I generally disslike that attitude overall, even less so involved in roleplay.
“Lore be damned, I do w/e I like.” Bit of a grey area, but can be really bothersome for me. I don’t mind certain headcanons to fill out things or make the roleplay/fluff richer, but when it gets to people that just completly disregard lore, like Naga roleplayers joining the Alliance or Geralt of Rivera roleplayers etc etc, it just becomes a bit too obnoxious for me.
Human Paladin Garithos Rpers. Fine that people want to play more “bad” or villianous characters, but there is a really bizarre arcetype that sprouted up around the void elves & burning of Teldrassil. And that is in its basic stereotype: -Overly-(As in, making boasting comments how every non-human race in the Alliance, including gnomes and dwarves are all sub-human creatures that should die) racist humans, often male paladins for some reason. Always praising Garithos as a great hero of the Alliance. I see alot of justifications for these, even the more over the top cases. And they range from things like “Oh, an average farmer might not know how much help the other races have been etc”, but the people who roleplay these characters are -always- like Commanders, high ranking veterans from the other wars, yet also hate their allies with a -passion- more so than orcs and undeads. Sorry for lengthy rant, but they really bother me.
Erpers, not much more to say there. Keep it out of the game.
I think I will put child rpers here, they are quite annoying.
Because the lore tells us, quite frankly, that Garithos was never honored as a “Hero” by Varian, Bolvar or anyone of the Alliance and indeed, they blamed him for the Blood Elves teaming up with Illidan and the Naga but also, by extension later on, the Horde.
And I’d extend this by saying that the average farmer would have probably heard about this, in small or larger details.
These are the same people who go out of their way to attack Argent Crusaders, Cenarion Circle etc. despite them being on good terms with their respective factions.
Garithos is basically non-existant in the records of the Alliance outside of “That racist crazy guy who was a disgrace to the entire faction”. So basically as far away from a hero as you can be.
Also doesn’t help that Garithos, in -all- of Blizzard’s settings with him, even the little backstory book/comics, he has zero redeeming personality traits. He was basically always a complete douche of character to serve as a irredeemable villian. There is some off-shoot bit about how he hates the High elves because they didnt help out his family, but its very far-stretched, and he also treats every other race poorly because of it. He is also a completly evil character to his -human- soldiers too.
I’ve heard some people say that they hope he will get an extended story in W3: Reforged.
This is ridiculous, as no matter what you think of him or what he gets, his end fate will remain the same. Sylvanas will order Varimatharas to kill him.
The thing he, they already extended his story a bit in some comic/novel, and it was basically the same in wc3. His family died, and he blamed the -entire- elven race, and by extension every non-human to ever exist for it because they didnt arrive in time to help.
So aside from that trait of just being Racist™, he is incredibly selfish, careless, lacks any form of military competence and is a straight up douche to his own human men too just for the sake of it.
Basically, completly irreddemable evil character from the ground up.
You see, I’ve read this and we have to remember 3 things:
Garithos was not an honored hero of the Alliance
A farmer would not hold the same grudges towards those other races of the Alliance, regardless on whether s/he had heard of Garithos or not…likely would not.
A farmer would know of the Alliance between the Humans and the Elves (Quel’dorei specifically.) For a minor General, who wasn’t even honored, again, I find it hard to believe that they would know or care about a general who essentially caused the rift between Humans and Quel/Sin’dorei.
This is what I mean, I’ve yet to see a, atleast for myself, valid reasoning for a character to basically roleplay as Garithos 2.0. Minor distrust of a race due to issues in the past, I can get.
Full on “I spit on you, I will murder you” when it’s one of the -Allied- ones? Just bad roleplay to me.
I’ve seen a couple of characters like this who justified it with that they were part of Garithos army, which also I find a poor reasoning since he was equally bad to his own soldiers, even before Sylvanas posession/mind trickery with him.
