They just really want to show off their new mechanical keyboards. That’s why they demand voice chat on 1400mmr.
ahem the correct term is gamer fuel…
EDIT: im not being serious btw… think i should go to sleep lol
Imagine people that get boosted are always saying:
“I could have done this on my own if I just grind 3 weeks”
yea sure you would
“I needed skillzz to get carried and I pulled my own weight”
no you didn’t, that’s why it is called boosted.
Running in a circle trying to survive with your pve rotation so that your fire mage friend playing 1k rating above you one shots someone is NOT pulling your own weight lol xD
Do those people even know how hard it is to climb with pugs that are on the same rating as you? They are on that rating because they are not much better. You need luck to catch a player that is better than the rating he is sitting on because he had bad partners as well.
You know what? I firmly believe I would also reach glad if pikaboo plays 2s with my. I totally carry my weight, believe me, I am just that good
fun times we live in. Come back when you reach 2.1k with players that are also climbing not players that played on 3k before.
especially after prot pala nerfs, nobody will believe it anyways
don’t get me wrong, there are some players that are also good or would be good in pvp that are just stuck because they don’t have the time or are unlucky with partners (especially in the gearing situation we have now).
And maybe it even applies to the streamer above BUT generalizing that getting boosted to 2.1k requires lots of skill must be a joke. Does it requires you to not be afk? sure. Do you need a keyboard and mouse? yup. You can maybe argue that you should know how to heal or do basic dmg to support the booster somewhat, but it certainly doesn’t require you to have great positioning, cd trading or general awareness.
As you pointed out by yourself, he booster guided you through the game. Yes in fact the was basically coaching you to become a better player if you later understand to make these calls by yourself.
So without that boost, you would have never learned this, so wouldn’t in return never reached 2.1k by yourself. A pug mate will not teach you when to press what button and tells you that you are about to get smacked so you better press a def cd
You need around 350 wins to cap conquest in 2v2, considering that you won’t win some and a lot of glads are boosting atm, thanks to blizzard for creating a demand for it, let’s say 500. Not as fast as you would imagine.
And then you question yourself how a new player would react to this, sitting for hours in lfg since everyone asks for achievements, unfair playground thanks to boosters, balance is another issue as always too. Don’t know who in a right mind won’t leave after experiencing all this
But it’s fine right?
I mean we can’t forbid boosting right? It’s been a thing since tbc so why forbid it now right? People buy wow tokens so everything is fine.
Can we stop with the crappy clickbait videos?
he is correct though
this game desperate need solo que for rated pvp and for m+ with good MMR system putting people with similiar exerience together so they
a)dont get boosted
b)dont have to boost others
well most likely he would though . it would just be not fun and require him to pug hundreds of hours.
its like with m+ - if you que enough times you will eventually get dungeons done , get rating on X or Y level and get into higher brackets - reuining experience of people there - but again with enough time and enugh tries you will eventually get group capable of clear in time and get higher to Z rating. you get bad key ? downside it to +9 and try again with upgrades untill it hits desired dungeons combo .
thing is its literaly requiring hundreds if not thousands of hours of very unfun gameplay
i can give here experience of my 190 itlv retri pala and +9 necrotic wake yesterday - not only we +2 , but also got comment “this was one of best groups this week” - why ? because everyone there knew what they are doing + we had 2 paladins which meant ton of utlity + necrotic stacs removal and people who genuinly knew what they were doing.
but it was possible only because i was lucky with keys - if i got for example like +7 plaguefall instead +7 mists and +9 necrotic i wouldnt clear as high .
+13 key on DH and trying to make my own group as dps ? - lol its not gonna happen dead key this week - while if i got like mists i would likely get sign ups eventually .
this system is sooo bad and so rng dependent that its horrible gaming experience
Don’t shame players when boosting is in the game by design. The days of sub counts being what gets shareholders excited are long gone. It is about the shop and service offerings and the token is a major part of that. Why do you think they designed the new valor system to be about getting a one time achievement that perfectly supports boost providers?
sure he might be a good enough player to do so. How much time he would need, nobody can estimate. I am just saying, people who gets a boost are often overestimating their own skills, after all it was a carry.
You think if I play with a r1 player my rating would not go up? Doesn’t mean I am capable of that rating if I have another player on my level. And yea that would be the fair way, grinding up with a player on the same level as you to learn together and improve. But of course sometimes you find a player with way higher rating or expierience that can carry you up and eventually you also might learn that you are on that level as well.
And yea, everybody has to go through this if you don’t take the short cuts with boosting.
no pvp is nothing like m+.
I agree every monkey can finish a +20 if they put in the hours. Why? Because it is static and always the same. Mostly even you make a mistake, you still can finish it.
Pvp on the other hand is always different. Matchups change and even the pilot change making different decisions. Sometimes something crits, sometimes not.
You cannot just run your head 5000 times against the wall and eventually be a r1 player.
I ran +10 keys in the second week of SL with 185. Not exactly hard. Pve content is just like learning a poem. You could probably train a real monkey to run mythics if you ever bother to spend the time training the monkey. Now humans are a little smarter, so they learn faster, but it is basically the same idea.
Pvp needs more decision making on the fly, not only memory and muscle memory.
M+ is defined by gear, perfect execution and memory.
PvP is defined by reaction times, memory and awareness (now also sadly alos gear more than ever)
you can plan a m+ out before the run in a safe space, for pvp that will never work out.
Yes thats the insane part about that. When poeple like you doing pvp gearing for pve its sign how broken this game is…i mean you probably cant find a lot of people that have easier time to gear in pve then you and still its better to buy boost. Wtf?
This topic wasnt made to blame you for boosting. More like to use famous streamer(you) to show the problem with pvp gear. Because you are a tank, you are famous, you are good player what can be better for pve gearing right? Also while its nice to have vendor imagine being new player and try to grind gear from 197 ilvl via lfg when half of teams are boosters with 226ilvl.
You can see how normalised boosting is today and its sad.
are they though
While I agree. We should shame people on being boosted because then there is a chance that Blizzard would do something about it and people will feel bad that they pay for every piece of content they cannot succeed in/takes a lot of time.
If you consider it this way. Torghast isn’t bad - you just have to pay 4 people so they boost you and all chores are gone then. You can then cook or watch some youtube videos.
Idk he openly admit it on YT video so he doesnt care i think…how it will help? In pvp its flamed/ shamed everytime and still its a thing.
Just don’t play/watch such people. They say they don’t care as long as they have subs and viewers. First sub/viewers drop = they change their mind
Such people don’t even have their own opinion.
So did Naguura, even uploading vid on how she went about it, members of most High ends guilds have payed “pro” PVP players to help them rank up, its not such a rare thing…most do it, I don’t understand the big deal about it.
Asmongold did it last season, solely just for the Glad mount, nothing more.
The high end PVP community certainly don’t care its the only way they have of making good gold, most do “Boosting”, “Coaching” , exactly the same as high end PVE players boost through PVE its exactly the same thing.
Actually they do, they all have stated the current system for gearing is broken, members of LIMIT, ECHO, BDGG and more have all stated in Vids its broken AF, but if they want the best gear they can get they have to do it, its a core game design problem they are just playing the system they have been given.
The deal about it is that buying things like ratings in a game is completely uncompetitive and was rightfully considered to be shameful for a long time. The word “buyer” was a pejorative. Now things went so far downhill that buying is apparently acceptable. I mean, you say you have no issues with it, previously you’d be laughed out of the forums and ridiculed to all hell, because for the vast majority of people this was a no-no. Well, not any more. The game has degraded.
Think of it this way. Imagine walking onto a football pitch with a extreme high level sports team and you paid the team a bit of cash to join them on the pitch, you wander around doing what you can and muddle through but at the end you are given a trophy, cameras are on you, on the front page of the newspaper declaring you the best at the game.
It’s crapping on the people who went through that hard grind to get that gear and then these people make a whimsy video admitting to it and going “oh well” it encourages this behavior and potentially these you tuber/streamers are associated with these booster communities to make money off of it in RL.
The problem is most people go with the flow and copy what they see, if Blizz see’s the community going around the broken system by paying for these services instead of fixing it then we may not see the end of this nonsense.
I believe shes mostly mained druid
world top 100 mythic raid guild (just, they got 100th sire mythic kill in CN).
Pushing keys around 24/25 - currently ranked 13th best druid in the world and has been for the whole of BFA also.
To say she hasnt earned her reputation is false. Shes an extremely good player.
Still shouldnt have paid for a boost coz id assume she has the skill to get to the ranking she wanted anyway (just like many of the world first guilds who paid for a pvp boost for the world first race). Honestly boosting should be made against the TOS both via RMT and in game gold.
She might be worth something in PVE, but in PVP the mere fact that she went to buy a boost says all you need to know about how good she is. She isn’t good in PVP. She admitted that by her actions. And yes, buying boosts is uncompetitive and shameful. She should be ashamed. The end.
Agree. The problem is that enforcing that takes effort. Blizzard don’t want to spend that effort. They want to buy more yachts for Bobby Kotick. They will take our sub alright, but won’t deliver much for it. That’s why the game is declining.
Id almost guarantee if she put the 8hr + a day she PVE’s into PVP she’d be very good at it. Just like most of those PVPers would be awful in PVE if they didnt put the time into it yet still probably buy the boosts for CE/AOTC/KSM