If only you had another school of magic that you could use to bait interrupts…
Good changes it should be casting a lot more and more of the damage should be baked into frostbolt and ice lance with less procs instead of having permanent uptime on flurry giving you lance spam.
i don´t like spam ice lance and frost it is the spec that I like the least but until this season was the only playeable in arena
Fire and arcane have been playable all of TWW frost was just broken all 3 mage specs are currently good.
fire and arcane was crap since they do the arcane “rework” remove temporal shield doble bl and spam misiles and fire since they nerf 500% living bomb literally noone are playing this two pve specs because damage was so low
Again you are free to have your opinion but they have all been strong all xpac if you can play mage you just need to practice more.
You don’t yet know how to use the mage kit and need damage to win but mage does not work like that it would probably be best to reroll if you want a class that constantly spams damage.
Also to your post earlier on about not learning what other classes can do mage/rogue/feral are the classes that benefit the most out of knowing what each class can do as it has tools to stop things happening and to punish people who waste defensives.
1 Like
Go play Devastation Evoker, it wins by doing damage and it plays like a mage. You don’t need 20 years of exp to play it. And you don’t need 20 years of exp to play mage also. But mage is harder than dev for sure.
it’s not my opinion, it’s facts and you don’t see how I play, I’m not a pro but I’m not stupid
Yeah for warlocks cleave comes to you.
Fears is spammable, but it is dispellable, many classes have a magic or CC immunity during fights.
The only two demons you can summon behind the pillar is Vilefiend whom is good, but not good enough on it’s own. And tyrant, who breaks his AI and stop casting of his enemy lines him.
By the way, UDK with crawling shadows talent also does 60% of it’s damage in non melee range, outside the cleave.
Defensively yes, offensively no way.
If your going to be biased just say it I have played all classes and you feel much safer on demo lock than on unholy yes you can do damage with clawing shadows but you have to go in at some point unholy counters demo because of the way cleave works with festermight but it is run over by Meele and does not have port and other ways to stop people tunneling you if you want to go give unholy dk a go by all means do it but the 2 play nothing a like other than their damage can be stopped by rooting pets.
And many classes have freedoms for chains of ice it’s still a spammable ability that if your not been trained can control the pace of the game just like polymorph.
That’s because just like warlock when it ramps up unholy is also hitting with abilities that deal 0 damage to buff clawing they have to press multiple globals of festering strike which hits around 200-500k and get a sudden doom proc from auto attacks to do big claw damage as the death coil buffs clawing damage by 50%.
You should not be dying to an unholy dk outside of the abom go and that’s the go which you counter with roots and defensives.
It’s very good offensively right now especially by the people who are botting on it and the cc chain it pulls off can solo win games while it’s doing it it’s just harder to play than boomy.
For fel sake half of the classes counters Demo right now.
DK in general, Warriors, Monks, DH, Rets. Frost mages. Demo doesn’t function as spec right now, it is alpha version or prototype of a spec.
I play MM and It is so freaking easy to deal with Demo, especially if you pay attention to casts.
UDK as a pet class doesn’t have BS that demo has, and range in these days with all melee mobility - 40yd doesn’t mean anything as long as you are not surv hunter. Anything else doesn’t give a damn about range or pillars. No other class in game is that hardcasting and has such obvious telegraphed burst.
1 Like
You clearly don’t want to improve at demo it’s a niche spec that is bad for the game and shouldn’t ever be meta without a massive redesign the spec is very good right now aswell it’s just not many people are good at kiting with lock.
I said that these specs have been good/OP since the fundamentals were settled in Legion.
That doesn’t rule out the occasional middling season.
Because it not just the lock what its needed to kite a double melee. Your mobility is not enough, not even for one melee.
You can be the best lock in the game, if your teammates wont peel for you its a gg
1 Like
Good job it’s a team game then and blizzard dont balance around the fact that warlock cant 1v2 Meele the only lock spec that should be complaining right now is Destro the other 2 can put out meaningful pressure if they kite and learn how to fake cast.
Also if you can’t kite 1 Meele on demo lock you are misplaying bad.
So the only topic related matter here still stands that all else has got nerfed except retri and mm for this season. Retri staying as favorite in avoiding nerfs the longest for 6 seasons now and they ridiculously even buffed it for tww S3. While nerfed bad specs like demo on off season and then started bullying mage.
Tuning bias, retri still broken 
2 Likes
I’m sure the guy struggling to get 1750 In shuffle after over 100 rounds knows a lot about what’s good and bad 
1 Like
I’m 1900 in shuffle right now on holypriest but that literally has nothing to do with this topic or statistics of tuning bias and retri being op and avoiding nerfs.
Anyways the topic still being that all else being nerfed except retri and all else seeing there being obvious tuning bias except few who keep defending retris. Tuning bias is obvious.