Tuning Bias

Its not a 100-0 also really? He still had to cast hammer of wrath. 100-0 in a hoj still possible idk what youre on about. Also wings was dispellable right in this clip for the :clown_face:s crying about it

If you keep watching, there is many 100-0 in that video.

https://youtu.be/opzif2Dpg1E?t=197

It’s legit the next next clip that is 100-0 xD

What wings? This is vanilla.

Right. My bad. SoD came in sorry it was a mistake

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Anyway, retri is overtuned on multiple aspects. Since im against pruning id rather see their overall dmg nerfed or given more counterplay while playing against them

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TO BE FAIR…
:joy:

Seemed fishy. Is it?

prune nerf glare and there will be more room for buffin dam xd

That was more meant as a joke since he said he is playing since launch and you said he is started playing the game when it was in a crap state and everyone who has looked into classic should know by now that classic was a horrendous state but we all didn’t know any better.

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Its still in a crappy state and we still dont know any better. :joy::joy:
Anyway, based on alpha gameplay AoC seems pretty decent gameplaywise its just sad that it still takes 3-5 years until release. And so far cant see any plan for arena style pvp.

Why are we talking about vanilla wow? ele shamans were also one shotting people with chain lightning should we bring that back? for the vast majority of the time arena has been out you could not do meaningful damage during bubble you could finish people off if they was low bubble needs a 50% damage reduction on damage while inside or just outright make it so you cant attack at all.

He started to argue that wings should be dispellable because they were so in the past, so I went back to vanilla, which is the very first expansion.

Bubble was already nerfed from vanilla from 12 seconds to 8 seconds.

Also, Mage’s iceblock got better with more expansions because it now provides healing, while retaining the original duration of 10 sec. It’s only fair that Paladin bubble also gets better.

Also, you forgot that WoW is not balanced around PVP. So them going back to damage penalty will just make the PVErs cry.

Imagine if rets was nerfed in PvE, I bet some would have closed their subscription for life

Not because they were dispellable in the past. It is because how overbloated retribution kit is. How old are you? 12 mimi he started :joy::joy:
I mean seems like the most important part did not hit you tho.
Your defending ret in every aspect. Deal with it its broken af. I offeren you a solution which doesnt require nor pruning nor damage tweaking

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The persons comment is right above yours

Many of our abilities are dispellable, blessings, all our cc, bubble, glare.

How is bubble dispellable?

Mass dispel / Shattering throw.

Mass dispel from priest and shattering throw from warrior…

You cant be this low in neuron connections

I’m only addressing the things you bring up, me going back to vanilla was because you went back to wings being dispellable. If you wanna talk about something else, we can.