I am kinda in middle of liking and not liking it. I mean, I haven’t actually seen the numbers, how much difference the correct and wrong covenant choice makes. I do like the idea that your choice matters and it is not that easy to switch covenants. Look, if you can swap your covenants when ever you want or when covenant powers are all same, then they all become meaningless. Because what ever you pick, it is the same.
Yeah, right, it’s not like the arguments themselves make sense: there is clearly need of some sort of conspiracy… Sorry but you have no arguments except “that’s how I would like the game to be, and I don’t care about anyone else.”.
Granted, you have the right to voice your opinion, but why are you being so condescending with other player’s opinions?
This is a MMO with millions of players: it’s not designed around you. Stop thinking that the concerns of other players are either worthless, toxic or bad for the game.
They might be bad for your game, but you are not the center of the world and neither the center of WoW.
I’m concerned that different covenants are going to be stronger for different content and I’m going to have to gimp myself in other areas.
The other worry is that something that looks strong is then nerfed and then I’m having to chop and change.
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Been my main since TBC, was a healer initially till MoP. 
it may not be design, but its severe lack of forethought on blizzards end. with the example above, if the player loves MM hunter, but it currently does 50% less but in this tier, BM hunter does 150% more. you really have no choice but to go BM if you want to be invited to groups AND just generally making solo killing easier. this is blizz’s fault for having such gaps between specs, esp pure dps specs. and its not like players dont alert blizz. isn’t shadow priest meant to be in such a spot right now for SL. will they listen and improve it?
of course they’ve done great things since 2006, but focusing on stuff from 2004-2011 doesnt help the game now, unless they were to take note of those good things and apply them somehow. there has just been to many bad things the last 6+ years. the recent past has been shocking, and not the blizzard people knew from times gone by.
legion was very good, but you seem to be ignoring some obvious down sides that people did point out:
- artifact power grind,
- legendary drop rate,
- world quests,
- mission table questionable purpose,
- continued gold inflation like WoD,
- off specs and alts punished by artifact weapon/power.
- etc.
legion was a very strong expansion, but it was far from flawless, and in fact contributes to some of the problems we face currently. and that you place legion above tbc or wotlk, maybe shows the era of player you are?
and it isn’t just the in game issues that we are not letting blizz get a free pass on, their attitude as a company towards its customers in recent times. peoples annoyance at blizzard currently isn’t just for 1 or 2 minor reasons, they’re piling up 
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Yeah, agreed.
But that’s not always what’s solely happening; there’s many players who take this ‘group elitism’ to a sickening degree that goes way beyond spec differences.
But I agree; the difference between specs shouldn’t be TOO high.
I just don’t agree with that.
- There was a LACK of content in WoD. What was there, was pretty good.
- Legion was damn near perfect in almost every way as far as I am concerned
- Yes, BFA had lots of problems.
So we’re down to 2 years of ‘bad things’ really.
Alright let’s see what you call downsides…
I liked that grind in Legion. Because it felt like it was worth it.
Was fine. It even had bad luck protection.
Were an awesome edition to open world content.
I made millions with those tables. I loved them.
Gold inflation has ALWAYS been a thing and can’t be pinned on anything recent.
Sure, I’ll give you that one (even though I personally don’t care because I’m a main focused kind of player).
This is nothing. 
You can’t just say ‘etc’ as if there’s many more problems. Name them if they exist.
No? I’ve been playing since early beta, then vanilla and onward.
I just like or dislike certain things and TBC for me ranks as the single worst expansion in WoW’s history.
Legion was the best time I’ve had in WoW.
Yeah, I have great nostalgic feelings of my progression raiding time in vanilla, but that was a different time and way of playing. The way I wanted to play from TBC onward has never been better than in Legion.
Well, I won’t try to make excuses for them because yeah, as a company they’ve made bad calls, but that’s not down to the devs of WoW. So I don’t let that cloud my judgement. 
Even for that i keep playing MM in M+ . Because i love playing MM hunter.
Depend for what you want to play the game.
Only pet utility more than MM hunter.
Thet only thing that block MM hunter for MDI is the target cap ( solved in shadowland).
MM got bursting shot, a knockback in AoE, used for sanguin / interrumpt spell / saving tank from dying. pushing a mob aways back to the group.
bursting shot > stun in PvE
Only when it come to PvP Intimidation > Bursting shot.
Between 3 and 6 target, MM hunter deal WAY better damage than survival and Beast Mastery. Otherwise they are not the best.
Maybe not, since it’s balanced per class and not per specialisation there will be maybe better balance than other extension.
Let’s hope that it will be balanced from the start 
Best at what?
Single target DPS?
Multi target DPS?
AoE?
Tank?
Single target healer?
Multi target healer?
PvP?
People like to say that there’s “one best class”, but that depends on what you wanna do.
Sure, there are classes that overperform or underperform for their assigned role, but there’s no class that is the best at everything.
Bit off topic there, sorry.
Even more off-topic 
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|_______ Got my eye on you Jalak.
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BM does not have to sacrifice DPS to have enrage/magic effect purge, which MM still has to. They also need to use a pet for Bloodlust, which will become way more of an issue in shadowlands because for now drums were nerfed down to 15% haste. Summoning a pet will make you lose the Lone Wolf damage bonus, which on bosses it might not be an issue, but Lone Wolf works better on multiple targets.
Bursting shot is a melee range cone knockback, and other than sanguine weeks it is extremely niche, not to mention that you have to rely on the hunter not to spread the mobs apart too much by using it. A single target stun is more reliable since you can combine it with Freeze Trap and your interrupt to interrupt a single mob for a longer period of time.
As I said before, putting a cap on everyone will solve some of the issues. The lack of proper “utility” will still be an issue with MM.
I can’t believe they made Tauren dance after this crap…
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It’s one of the best in-game dances, what are you talking about?
I’d use it for all my races if I could.
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It looks horrible on Tauren.
No it doesn’t.
You are so uncultured.
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I can’t wait for when I apply for a dungeon group to be asked what covenant I am.
Or to be benched on raid fights for other people of my same class, because they chose a more suitable covenant.
You’re uncultured.
Embrace the meme dance!
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Never! Hisssssss!
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