Venthyr allied race šŸ¦‡

but the vampires are ugly both male and women their equal in their ugliness why would you want to play one :smiley: why play the inferior vampires when you can use the undead skin on the clearly superior blood elves :smiley:

The only thing superior regarding Blood Elves is the treatment they get from the boys in Blue

Take it back!
Takā€¦TAKE IT BACK!

You lack sophistication and elegance my dear :nail_care:
Basic B
:white_check_mark: Crusader title on Paladin
:white_check_mark: Generic Paladin Transmog
:white_check_mark: Female Blood Elf

You arenā€™t fit to adorn my rags :bat:

Besidesā€¦ youā€™re also as common as muck! ergh

pft this was the best transmog of wolk era you have respect for the Classics :stuck_out_tongue:

I canā€™t I was far too bad at the game back then (Still am)
++ It isnā€™t Tier 3, clearly the best Transmog from that Era :tea:

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and also most people donā€™t seem to use it because they canā€™t find the vendor :smiley: plus you have to do the wintergrasp raid for the boots

also judgement is the most generic paladin set next to lightbringer :smiley: would be nice if blizzard gave us another fan service tier like with legion :smiley:

Iā€™d rather have nothing than that Btec downgrade useless worthless hunk oā€™ junk. Was it Really necessary to change the colour pallette AND the visual shoulders and aspects that Made the originals great in the first place

Just add Venthyr
Muuuuuch better idea
:bat: :open_umbrella:

ye i donā€™t like the mythic version of lightbringer they kinda ruined it with the broken shoulders and the light beam faceguard :smiley:

Demon Hunters are hard confirmed. Kyrians have stated they cant carry us over to the shadowlands after we ā€œdieā€ but they dont know why. Eonar has confirmed that we can corpserun. Arthas prevented us from releasing our spirit while this was still a thing back then and even afterwards.

Whether us being mortals is a reason Azeroth chose us is hard for debate. At least I know of no sources in that regard.

And that the player specifically is connected to Azeroth and transcends even realms is also confirmed. Azeroth directly intervened twice. Once again Nā€™Zoth when she reached into Nyā€™alotha and the second time she reached into Zereth Mortis to break the Jailers MC attempt followed by buffing us with her powers.

Her being the reason for our immortality would also make sense. Shes Argus counterpart. Argus was the Titan of Death. So Azeroth being the Titan of Life would work (yes i am aware of Eonars title). She is also presumed to be the reason why we can use the stones in the maw while every other being (including the Pantheon of Death) cant as otherwise we would have to be connected to the First Ones themselves in one way or another.

On top of that Azeroth stands atop all the Titans. This connection would also explain why the Demon Hunters soul didnt go poof if one decides to sacrifice themselves during the starting area experience since Iā€™m more than certain that the mechanism used was utilizing Fel Magic given it was a demon machinery which would have eradicated the Players Soul as any being that is being killed by Fel has their soul erased and they do not pass onto the Shadowlands.

Plus that something is wrong with the players is more than obvious. We have beaten beings to a bloody pulp that are planet ending threats all on their own. Just take Archimonde. It once required a trap to deal with him temporarily while the players have done it not just on their own but they have also eradicated Archimonde for good (meaning he can never resurrect) and they did it while facing him on his own grounds (twisting nether). And Archimonde was just one of many that we have slaughtered.

Thanks for that post I found it quite an interesting read
The reply unfortunately went to you mainly when It was meant for Hera
Hopefully they read it to reconsider their position| point & reasoning regarding immortality

:bat:

ok but you will have to grind rep with the new sire danny faction that gives you 1 rep per day :wink: there are 10 dailies that all give 0.1 rep so in about 5 years you should reach max renowed and unlock your vampire

Would be a fun playable race, if a bit odd.

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Were they only interesting faction from SL? Yeah

Does this require enormous mental lore gymnastics in order to make work? 20 gold medals worth of.

Based on what weā€™re seeing so far itā€™s impossible, and here are 2 in game examples:

  1. The Malfurion - Ysera swap. Beings of the Shadowlands seem to belong there and not be able to exist in our plane without some sort cosmic issue.

  2. Drakka during the Orc Heritage Quest. Itā€™s very much alluded that sheā€™s dead, and ancestor worship is still a thing.

Now as to how the Jailerā€™s minions managed to walk on Azeroth even if momentarily, maybe we can attribute it to some sort Maw and domination related magic?

Finally, remember that beings of the entire supposed universe go to the Shadowlands. This means that the majority of the Venthyr werenā€™t even from Azeroth when they were aliveā€¦ I guess you could argue that Azeroth is an interesting tourist destination for themā€¦ But they have no reason to get involved in any of our conflicts (like somebody mentioned further up).

Also, the less of shadowlands lore we have to revisit the betterā€¦

oooookay I see how it is. I mentioned the Tmog so now youā€™ll punish me for 5 YEARS!
ā€œYou learned that the things that once tormented you could give you power!.ā€
If this proposal of yours were to be true, then only I, me , Slinks can play as a vampire
:umbrella:

The lore is a mess
See my previous posts about it as the basis and reasoning for not being playable
Slyvanas story? The Jailer appearing out of nowhere and is the new evil all cunning master puppet behind all of it? :poop: get outta here
Using the lore :no_entry_sign:
Great animations and super cool model that we played along side? :white_check_mark:

Also the Chronicle book fiasco
The one book series to rule all the lore
hehe not really just kidding itā€™s just a pov guys

Get.Out.Of.HERe
:bat:
Tea? :umbrella:

honestly at this point using the lore defense donā€™t work since blizz clearly donā€™t give a crap :smiley: but iā€™m pretty sure they abandoned the whole concept of allied races after their terrible picks was disliked :smiley:

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You knowā€¦ possibly some truth to that !
I meanā€¦ Mechgnomes?! hahahaha

I will continue to hold out my hope however
I am used to practicing patience
10,000 years an all that :headstone: :bat:

Also, thanks ! :beers:

Alternative suggestion: delete the entirety of Shadowlands, purge all of its NPCs, armour sets, zones, quests, weapons, everything - and offer free brain surgery to everyone who played that expansion so that we can forget it happened.

Its already awful enough throwing my spear of bastion and being reminded of how terrible that expansion was - how it almost single handedly killed the game and ruined many fan favourite characters in the span of just 2 years, while flooding the game with thousands of collectibles that all look identical and will eternally clog up everyones gear, mount and pet list, but to imagine walking into town and seeing some goofy Runescape 3 looking vampire guy in MY Orgrimmar, helllllllllllllll naww

heeeeeeeeeeylllllllllllll naw

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I could see potential for a Denathrius expansion where we venture into Nathreza, homeworld of the Dreadlords and with the aid of the Venthyr and Brokers, we go into Shadowlands 2.0 :skull:

But yeah, Nathreza is more realistic than shadowlands.

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just let it go they will never delete shadowlands it would also be illegal to do so since they already sold us the product :stuck_out_tongue:

personally iā€™m glad shadowlands happen the arthas fanbois are in shambles as it was revealed he was just a fluffer for the most basic bad guy ever :smiley:

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Gave me a laugh to be honest. Not bad not bad

whaaat. You didnā€™t take banner or enjoy the pre-nerf CONDEMN! charge like a trueeee zugger ?
Iā€™m not overly thrilled about some covenant abilities trickling through into DF talents either however.

AYO !?
Iā€™ll follow you around with my :open_umbrella: till you go insane

Respect it isnā€™t completely for you Leeches
Not everyone can appreciate Top tier :nail_care: :dracthyr_hehe: