The fact is WOW isn’t “meant to be played” in any one way or another, if it was meant to be played in full groups then there would be a specific requirement for that, however, since the beginnings of BG’s there was always the option to que alone yet there isn’t one for queueing with more than 5, so please, do explain how that works if the game is meant to be played that way.
Said it time and time again, there should have been a firm line in the sand as to what are true casual BG’s and what are organised and structured BG’s. One should have been designated purely for the fun of playing the BG’s themselves, for people who couldn’t care less about gear, titles, honour or any of that stuff and one for those who do care about that stuff. Sadly it has cost the game an awful lot of decent, laid back and fun players.
Join a random group against them and read the bg chat.
Read all the comments from the people who quitted the game because of it or changed to PvE.
They never leave the random team any win condition and go even so far to camp the enemy gy Ashran (base), Alterac (mostly Stonehearth gy), Wintergrasp (behind broken temple) and IoC (in enemy base while controlling every other point of the map.
In addition to the number of full groups they join in they are in most cases also on voice.
Even hord/alliance players who join WITH them in the bg wrote multiple times that it takes away their fun, since its insanely boring for them and they cant even press more than 2 buttons before the whole enemy team is dead.
Personal experience (on both sides) over years, etc.
Point is actually, that they on the one hand don’t lose anything by playing with max 5ppl, while they on the other hand make it impossible for the randoms to play the bg at all if they que sync with multiple groups.
Ive submitted over 20 tickets regarding the full Premade teams, most Russian, destroying the game, I supplied 16 screen shots showing cast iron proof with the details of the players
Blizz refused to even look into it , instead got a response telling me to create individual tickets on each name, the Names are Russian, Cyrillic, which of course we cant type on a UK keyboard, They say they cant act on photographic evidence of abuse or cheating
If you want to go premade go Rated, more strength to ya, dont troll honor lev 30 players with a team full of 1500 to 4k players, your sad and pathetic.
NO where in real life would we ever say this kind of behaviour is acceptable
Your attitude, Your response, is the exact reason why 95% of all currently active players have never played a single game of Rated BG, you Allow and almost encourage this sad game play destroying behaviour by these people, players experience being grave yard camped by full pre made teams that are simply trolling normal players and you wonder why the figures released this week show tens of thousands of players quitting the game
This is a different response to the question that was asked. You said it is against the ToS and CoC to ‘create an unfair advantage’ and to ‘disturb an enjoyable environment for all players’. So, from a Blizzard perspective, how do they enforce that? How do they ensure compliance with those provisions? I’m not asking from a player perspective, WoW players complain at everything. ‘Disturbing an enjoyable environment’ comes in many different ways. So, how do Blizzard measure and enforce it?
while i do agree with most of what u said, simply telling someone “well easy, don’t play bg” is kinda silly… obviously most people care most when a game mode is ranked, tho i prefer to consider matches matches but even i do consider ranked SLIGHTLY more important, not that ranked doesn’t have its own problems too… but i decided to stick to normal bg for many reasons, and regardless of this being solved or not in the history of wow ill just keep playing
like i mentioned above, in the last month i noticed a drastic fall off premades compared to Dragonflight, in Dragonflight i could almost get 100% premade for hours, while now i even have 5-6-7-10 games without a single super unbalanced graveyard camping match, tho they still happen when there is a massive gap in gear on healers, or when a healer decides we are not worthy of heals (often sadly)
im rly not up to “ban people who sync” as i consider it a complete WASTE to get rid of a portion of the playerbase that is obviously even growing in term of volume just because its unfair, its really hard to make the game both fair and fun
for example if i made a poll about the geareing system i believe we wouldn’t have a complete victory on neither “gear should not exist because skill should be the only component that matters in pvp” vs “we need a longer progress system to keep people playing and gear being handed out or not existing makes everyone fotm 100% easier”
It’s like construction workers have put up a fence and roadblocks and a sign “construction site, do not enter” and you just say “no problem, i’m smart, i’ll just climb over the fence.”
I know it is. But that’s the only solution. Blizzard aren’t going to do anything about it, so there’s no point in playing them unless you do the same as the people who sweat premade BGs.
Just because more wolves joined the pack of premade wolves howling it doesn’t make it more legit: No sync premades were never a legit part of the game, probably never will be because then Blizzard will lose even more subs.
And even though you don’t understand the dilemma in what the ToS says versus how it’s being executed ingame by Blizzard it STILL doesn’t mean that sync’ed premades are allowd.
Why are people so against sync prem but have no problem with 5 man prem in a 10man bg? I never understood. In both cases theyre extremely unfair.
I see some people in this thread complain, but these very same people play 5 man premades in a normal bg. You complain it ruins the game for others but then proceed to do the exact same thing. A 5 man premade is as impactful ( if not more ) as 20 man sync premade in epic bgs.
The simple answer is: One type -the 5man - is allowd.
The other type - the 40-man- is not allowd.
Blizzard always allowd up to 5 players to queue up in a group into the same battleground. That’s per design. Blizzard chose this design for battlegrounds.
Is it fair for the other half in the 10-man bg? That can be discussed but I doubt that Blizzard will change their own design.
40-man however (not 20-man) ebgs is not allowd and still is against the ToS because players circumvent Blizzard’s bg design to get together into one specific battleground by other means, or you can call it syn’ced premade.
That’s the difference between the 5-man groups and the 40-man groups.