Because gold spent on a vendor is REMOVED from the game completely, rather than just being removed from one player and passed to another.
If you buy a stack of herbs for 5k, that gold is just passed on to another player and stays in the game. If you spend 5k on a mount, that gold is removed from the game.
No, you don’t. You have your mount cost, respec costs and repair bills. All other forms of spending gold just passes your gold along to other players and doesn’t drain it from the game.
Plan your time better then. And for the most part, you can do dungeons in your PVP spec (depending upon your class and role) as long as you have decent gear.
Plan time? Dude, i want to actually run raids apart from arenas, rather then just sit in bgs/arenas avoiding this respec thing. I better to pay once, then constantly run and spend gold back and forth and yes, it’s not the same value as in classic, but you do this ALOT MORE then in classic. It’s easy to say you don’t need respec and NO one need, when you are not interested completely in PVP activities. Warmane TBC had no harm with just dualspec+double seals, it became actually the best example of TBC “Nostalrius” thing with good changes. TBC classic will have already more changes including LFG i simply don’t know what is your problem there. Isn’t a once 1k amount to pay is bad to have a respec, when you can respec 3 times a session? Why would i need gold sink(its not an argument about gold sinks actually) when i simply won’t do stupid grind activities that much and play actually the game. kek. If you was really going to play both parts of the game you’d have diff mindset.
Had enough of sunwell dailies in retail tbc, no way when you need to buy gems and chants spending this precious gold and time for 2 respecs a day average, only PVP or only PVE then. To remind the thing, the initial reason of releasing the dual spec in Lich King was exactly that - TBC’ish unnecessary barrier between PvP and PvE activities following Tons of whines from the players, who are limiting themself with the content available.
TBC itself is way more nerdy then classic is as a game. Way more. Classic is waaaay more “casual” in terms of grinds.
Then respec to your raid spec before your raid, respec to your PVP spec after your raid is over. Most guilds raid around 3 nights a week on average, that’s 300 gold a week. That’s naff all.
Dungeons? Unless you’re a tank, you can run them in your PVP spec.
The fact that you think my stance on this is personal is laughable. My stance is simple, the game has minimal actual gold sinks; removing one of the few isn’t a good thing.
TBCC isn’t a private server, and talking about Warmane is a waste of time. Private servers aren’t built for longevity. Classic has already survived longer than most private servers, once Naxx hits on P Servers, the popularity drops off and the majority of players jump ship to the next “new” server.
TBCC has the SAME dungeon system that original TBC had, just with an updated interface. Classic had similar changes.
And no, the changes that Blizzard are making are to address faction imbalance; not to affect the quality of people’s lives.
It IS about gold sinks, just because you don’t care about something doesn’t mean that it isn’t important. It means you’re small minded and can’t see past your own desires.
No, I wouldn’t.
You can earn gold in more ways than just doing dailies.
Tell that to the thousands of furbolgs that I’ve murdered.
Too much water. Dude, ill predict that over again when its released without doublespec - pvpers will simply stick to pvp and pvers will stick to pve. It is not classic and the barrier is real. There will be few exceptions for the players who do 8+ hours of wow daily, but other then that People will do either bg arena grind or reputation-hc-raids grind. Less rosters both activities. Why would i even argue with you, if you dont plan to pvp, then why would you need a dual spec? All who are against dualspec as i understood have two characteristics: first you don’t play pvp content, second you don’t have a bit of a clue what was Tbc except from some Bloggers on YouTube.
Used before i started to play PvP. Thats all you need to know. When i started to PvP i had no place or any desire to farm something apart gems/chants to upgrade the pvp items. Either you do only PvE as you explained, or you do only PvP, or if you want to do both, play it like you have a job 8+ hours a day
No player who wants to rank in arenas will ever run to PvE and spec twice a gaming session at least. I’ll simply stick to BG farm and spend gold in between queues i have for upgrades as gems, rather then dual spec, as all did before in retail tbc.
I was referring to Vanilla, not to TBC. Vanilla had a LOT more consumables on its list than TBC. Sure, if you played PvP then respec costs may have amounted to more in TBC than in Vanilla. But from a PvE-only perspective, Vanilla was WAAAY more nerdy than TBC in terms of sheer grinding.
In Vanilla i feel you, played till P4, still remember those preparations to BWL release, had mages who ran for even more lotuses then i do in my guild Must say it was fun sometimes if you had timer on lotus to compete, but it’s a completely different story. Classic has literally no PvP content in comparison to TBC dude, thats why you either do this, or do that.
PVPers would stick to PVP and vice versa regardless of Dual Spec. Dual Spec was for people that wanted to play multiple aspects of the game and those people (I.E people like me) will just pay for the respec cost.
Wrong question. The question is Why would I, Miylee, argue with you, Spongebob’s snail, when you’re not even reading what I’m writing to you?
I’ve told you, this isn’t a personal stance for me. I’m happy to pay the gold for respec costs because there isn’t much in the form of gold sinks in TBC.
Cute, but since you don’t even know what the word “gold sink” means, I don’t think you should be questioning the motivates or knowledge of others.
You are the sole reason why I constantly say the PVP community are a bunch of toxic crybabies. Not just on this board, or even just this game; but every game as a whole.
If you want to have a discussion with somebody, read what they’re telling you instead of responding with a non-message and screeching “REEEEEEEE PEE VEE PEEE REEEEEEEEEEE!!!”.
It was all but fun - to me, at least. I do look forward to TBC’s vastly reduced need for grinding.
And if I ever need to play Arenas, I’ll just schedule my games in-between raids so I only need to respec twice a week (ex: if my raid nights are Wednesday/Thursday/Monday, then I can play my arenas in the weekend and then respec back for Monday).
I understand you are continuing with your childish screeching about GOLD SINK and continuing with TONS OF WATER as im again some student and you’re some lecturer. But you’re just another idiot selfish raidlogger who has no real arguments for dual spec to be implemented in game. You answered my two questions before or not, i see that you didn’t so just get off this topic you angry kid retard. Stick to your rep grinds and don’t dare anymore to tell me farm to respec to do two activities, and find a real job you looser
I’m sorry but im not anymore 14 years old as i was back. And well even if i was - its no intention to grind gold for just this feature - this is simply not fun. And that’s quite a logic why most people who especially pvp are greedy to spend gold for respecs. So in reality 1k gold as in wotlk was quite a better gold sink as someone says, because you think twice if you want to do these dailies or not for an hour to just respec. Retailers as this draenei kid above have no clue how TBC works and how it was in reality, and main thing WHY this feature was implemented later on(the best feature blizz actually ever did)
Apart from grinding gold to constant respecs, there’s ton of things to spend the gold for still and it is sure more then in classic (of course not including the large black lotus flasks, no doubt)
Not to mention you may still spend gold to respecs there while having dual spec too.
P.S. i already see how shadow bolt warlocks are speccing twice or more a day between activities to SL/SL. No. They will simply play either this or that as it was before, except probably some players who want to get a skull trinket from Illidan when BT is released. Even then its not a necessary trinket unless you play MLS as destro, this will be a hunted item for mages sure. If people in this topic hating TS (not you Zalanji im talking in whole) want there authentic community separation between two sections of the game - they will do it. But then i want them not to whine they have not enough of raiders if that happens.
100 gold in a week doesn’t even qualify as “grinding”, in TBC. Not when a single daily quest gives you 12g or so. And that’s not factoring all the gold you get just from running through heroic dungeons and raids. You could play for, like, 1 hour per day on avg and still get enough gold for your weekly respecs, with plenty to spare for your consumables and such.
Heck, if you have an alt or two with tailoring/alchemy, you can finance your respec needs just through your profession cooldowns.
Sorry but i value my time. Even tho i have 3 60s with 100 riding, full professions(lesser ones only on priest inc fishing), classic had no arena content so i didn’t care about respecs that much. If you play arenas you won’t waste time for this QUALITY CONTENT for respecs. It’s not just some personal abstract opinion, it is how it was, how it is, and how it will be in result again. People won’t just PvE who are interested in arenas and thats all. There’s enough time you need already to grind gold for enchants and gems.
You’ve proven 0 real statements against dual spec and being behaving like a selfish prick throwing insults at me (you started, not me). When i’m telling you the real things you continue repeating same nonsences as a parrot, learn from players like Zalanji how to discuss and attempting to throw your arguments first.
Looking your profile, old account, 2010 year archievements in arenas not even a single time got 1550 rating anywhere. So why the hell your opinion about dual specs is valuable? Stick to your reputation grinds and shut your mouth.
Im talking with you the way you deserve
Must say it was fun sometimes if you had timer on lotus to compete, but it’s a completely different story. Classic has literally no PvP content in comparison to TBC dude, thats why you either do this, or do that.