25mn for a Battleground is not acceptable, but honestly I don’t really care. I go premade, I rollface pugs, and I farm my marks like everyone else … Would be nice to have faster queue, I would like to do more PUGS, i really enjoy PUGS vs PUGS in BG, it’s WAY MORE FUN for everyone, but well … playing as pugs with 25mn queue time to encounter a premade, no thanks you . . .
The problem is not Blizzard, it’s the player base. It will be the inverse problem in WOTLK : everyone and their mother will go Alliance, Alliance will have 25mn queue, and Horde tag will be way lower.
Reroll alliance fixes all your problems without breaking the game for everyone else. It’s literally your own stubborness that is the only problem with your game.
How is pointing out that this is not a problem caused by the game but by the players chosing one fatcion over another “stupid”?
Correct. The Designers did not intent for players to minmax everything.
They intended for players to play a fantasy RPG, not read spreadsheets.
However, and this is the important part, and the reason why my argument is 100% correct:
There is nothing the designers can do about this.
Sure, because the people who chose horde because “but muh racials…!” will surely play with what they perceive as a disadvantage, so other horde players can have quicker BG access.
I wonder why all threads taking up this issue is filled with alliance bots thinking it’s great game design and just putting all the blame on people for playing Horde.
Easy fix, enable the mercenary system - problem solved.
But this is a problem with the game design, it’s not the fault of players. Me as an individual cannot control what factions the majority plays. And as it is an issue with game design, it’s up to Blizzard to give us a solution.
There are several things mentioned that the developers can do to fix this issue…
1-way faction changes
2-way faction changes
Mercenary mode
It’s up to the individual. As a horde player I would gladly transfer to Alliance to get shorter queue times. If they chose not to, yes then they have to endure it.
No, it isn’t.
The game design says: “There are 2 factions. They are different”.
The game design doesn’t say: “I want to play one faction massively over another regardless of the fact that that faction already has longer WQs, because of a minor advantage in racial abilities that will confer to me after waiting an hour to play the game I want to play”.
This decision is not the games fault.
All 3 are against the design philosophy of TBCC, where ones choice of faction matters.
Therefore, none of these are viable solutions.
Blizzard has admitted classic has design flaws that needed fixing… Drums, Rating system, layers,cross-server queues, class balance(Alliance paladin gets the same skill as horde paladin for balance), the list goes on and on!
30min BG queues is another issue caused by design decisions that can be solved easily. The issue has become more appearent in TBCC also. Its worse than classic and worse than back in 2007. This is bad for the game. And if you are 100% no changes, why are you even here?
No it’s not great game design to have one of the 2 factions be superior in both PvE and PvP resulting in a faction imbalance but addressing effects of imbalance by making it irrelevant and making the more popular faction even more appealing than it already is is hardly a solution.
I agree, population could be fixed along with queue times if Horde players where allowed to transfer to Alliance. Not every pvp player is a sweaty min/maxer on the Horde side. Many ended up there cus they have been playing Horde previously, or because of friends etc… Not because of racials.
Interesting to see that the faction balance is pretty much PERFECT on EU/US scale. And yet all alliance here claim the opposite and just bash the idea of fixing the queue issue.
classic.wowhead /news/classic-wow-realm-population-report-data-aggregated-through-community-295075
Nah, every single horde player that aren’t min/maxing will concider it. The majority of the PVP population currently have 30 min queues! That is not a small issue.
