We pay for multiboxers

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Why and how do you consider earning it as a raider and buying it with your own earned gold differently versus a guy that bought tokens?

The token and the earned a million gold guy basically are the same.
Token guy spent 20 hours of his income towards tokens where as the guy who farmed 1 million gold might have spent 30-40 hours of his freetime to make 1 million gold by farming it. (or maybe even take time off to make sure he made said gold)

The prestige is from earning that mount the right way, ie doing the content without being boosted.

You cant be against boosting / tokens and then make such a weird judgement call on what is okay or not.

If you dont want value of rewards being screwed over, both the guys who bought the mount are wrong.
They should have earned it the regular way.

The issues with your replies lay in the following responses:

All of the content being offered as boost is doable without being boosted. Even for most of the players buying said boost.
Especially ahead of the curve is one of them easily doable by anyone.

All other content, isnt deemed impossible without boost, but you claim it is.

At the time boosts get offered, there is no progression left to gain.
The guy getting his ahead of the curve boost is already 2-3 months late to the party atleast and lacks the itemlevel to get there himself.

all cosmetics / mounts stay in the game and 2 years from now, you can walk into any player who didnt buy a boost right now but still is rocking said cosmetics.
It isnt ‘‘exclusive / 1 time only rewards’’ like Challenge mode gear was and even those runs did get boosted a lot but nobody can tell the difference right now.

I legit cant tell if someone right now with the challenge mode armor was a great player back then or just boosted.
Hell, people might even think that from me even tho i earned them by progressing through those runs with my friends.

And you mentioned gear a lot, by running boosts but full Nyalotha HC boost still go for 200k today with personal loot and you might end up leaving the raid with just 2 more ilvl than you did before said boost.
Which is a mere increase for such a price paid.

Well, not sure how to say it, but you literally skipped over all the remarks considering boosts / prices and their respective gains.

Which i used to make this a worthwhile discussion.
All cast aside by you.

Have a nice day.

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Not true, you can see the undercutting break points, when you select an item to buy… eg, 1365x item for 30g…then 470x item for 25g… then 150x item for 19g.
I have listed a single Veiled Crystal and had it come back unsold…which is annoying and means when I relist, I trash the price, because I want to sell, not play the AH mini game.

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If there was no option to buy gold for money would you be okay with boosting?

Edit: okay you are. I just caught up and read few previous posts. Tokens literally ruined almost every aspect of the game.

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People that buy token with real money pay for them.

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That is because people are undercutting and only if you click through the AH listing of your desired product you will see the breakpoints in price.

But since you dont need to undercut because your stuff will sell except it has to be the newest item in there.

If player A posts for 20 gold at 17:45.
Player B for 20 gold at 17:55
Player C for 20 gold at 18:00, and i walk in at 18:05, the game will automatically sell me the player c listing for 20 gold.

If his supply doesnt meet my demands, ill get a part of player B’s supply.

And only if i click through to the actual listing page i will see: 3 different sellers or amounts.

And the fact that people undercut is just silly. You are destroying the market.
People will need gems, or ore or herbs.

If they think its too expensive, they will start farming it themselves.

You also dont see supermarkets undercutting the competition over and over.
They need to keep their margins and it would work the same in WoW if everyone just could understand the fact that undercutting isnt helping you at all.

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Bbbbbbblazingboost(.)com, come get your curve achievments.

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Not fully ok, but significantly better than what it is right now.

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All the people complaining about multiboxers and throwing accusations of ruining realm economies should be complaining about this instead.

However, there’s another side to this, there are those who desire lower prices, so that they can afford to make things.

Sometimes the needs of the many will outweigh the needs of the few, and it’s not always a bad thing.

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No they are not lover prices, because they also making inflation. Today I have full group in suramar who farm raw gold.

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Due to multi-boxers activity many good farms got nerfed into oblivion meaning normal players are also punished for what mboxers are doing.

Blizzard is doing everything just to not ban multi-boxing XD
Such a fluffing :poop:

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I hope that this is true, because I like multiboxing and want to be able to do it for the whole of the shadowlands expansion, I will be upset if efforts of the anti multiboxing liberation front are successful and bring about the banning of multiboxing in world of warcraft. But of course I will accept this and resort to finding people to group up with. Perhaps one day the anti grouping liberation front will rise up from the ashes of the anti mutlboxing liberation front and bring about the ban of groups, so that the game can at last be fair for all players, not just those who can form groups.

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Get lost mboxing shill :laughing:

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Well this is true, and simple economics.
There is no need to price 1 single herb at 50g a piece.

But there is also something between 50g a piece and 20 silver a piece.

So yeah, supply and demand will always be part of pricing tho.

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Calm down. I am simply a player that enjoys multiboxing.

I am astounded by the volume of posts that denigrate multiboxers without paying any heed to the fact that not all multiboxers are the same. Multiboxers come in all shapes an sizes and to condemn it outright it outright is a grave injustice.

Have you given multiboxing a try? If not then maybe you should and then you will understand what it is. If you have, they why do you not realise that it is not multiboxing that causes problems, but people. Individual people doing things that you don’t like. I’ve been multiboxing all day, and I saw not one other player, I didn’t do any harm to anyone, I didn’t pick herbs, I didn’t do any mining, I didn’t farm any mobs for gold and items, i didn’t post anything on the auction house. I didn’t do any pvp. I just multiboxed all day and it was fun and I am horrified that there are those on a mission of biblical proportions to make it impossible for me to indulge myself in mutlibox pleasure.

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No, you are a guy who is trying to justify a global problem with selfish singular point of view.

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Well no, I’m not trying to deny climate change, claim that corona virus is a hoax, or pretend that reports of police brutality are exaggerated. I’m simply giving my experiences and points of view, same as you. But it seems to me that you are missing out on some vital information, so I advise you to educate yourself about the things that you speak about, such as multiboxing.

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If you think you are qualified enough to declare someone uneducated on a topic, you might want to show them how as well.

Just a thought.

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In the last multi-boxing thread you were arguing that multi-boxing is fine by trying to prove that you aren’t doing anything which harms other people’s experience while at the same time completely ignoring the fact that the point is the global negative effect of the multi-boxing and NOT some subjective “wants”.
Basically, you were using your selfish subjective point of view to argue that multi-boxing is fine because you like it which is absurd because it has nothing to do with the existing problem.

FYI, don’t tell me to try multi-boxing as if it was going to change something because it doesn’t matter whether I like it or not which is something which you clearly fail to understand.

Multi-boxing is a global system that has a global effect on the game and people experience and it should be judged from a global perspective and NOT from a selfish singular point of view of some random selfish person.

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I get the feeling that certain individuals that attack multiboxing are misguided and unware of what multiboxing actually is and instead should focus on the actions of individuals rather than than the means by which those individuals carry out those actions.

Imagine someone walks up to you and hits you on the head with a fish, are you going to ban fish?

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But, are they not focusing on the actions of the multiboxers when they complain of those who enter BGs and win with perfect coordination, or those who swarm zones and take nodes or hyperspawning mob spots all for themselves?

You took fish for your analogy, but you can just as easily replace it with something else to fit your own argument. I can say, for example, that given the danger of sharp objects, even kitchen knives are confiscated or not permitted in some places, like schools.

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