Isn’t the reason given by Lor’themar as of why Sin’dorei ultimately remained in the Horde as stated during the Nightborne recruitment quest exactly that? The Horde allows its members to retain their culture and traditions. It doesn’t judge them and doesn’t shun them.
You’re implying that somehow the Alliance doesn’t allow its members to retain cultural traditions, judges its members or otherwise shuns them?
We have Void Elves welcomed openly - who might I add, are formed out in part from Sunfury, Kael’thas veterans, and are practitioners of the Void. The Alliance is /truly/ the most intolerant and homogenized faction out here, lol.
On the contrary, we see a part of Silvermoon filled to the brim with Horde iconography, and the Horde-only quarter being the least BElven spot in all of Quel’thalas. Give me a single equivalent of that in the Alliance, of a city that has Lions plastered over it? And Humans populating it like they’re residents.
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Are you aware that the Horde has more race-class combinations than the Alliance does? And with the VElf DHs, VElf Paladins and Kul Tiran Paladins we’d finally have equilibrium between the factions? They can then add more to both factions thereafter.
Is it really such a tragedy and faction imbalance that the Alliance finally achieves parity with the Horde? Also we’re having an expansion where two zones are Horde-coded, ontop of the Undermine patch from TWW. So this outcry of “Horde players are getting nothing” feels really off.
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If the class has only one race to pick from, yes.
Also
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Anti helfer detected.
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Mutual respect is something you earn. If you want others to give weight and value to your words, respect is the baseline to work off of.
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Oh, so you’re trying to tell me that the Night Elves entire Army, all their Ancients, their Glaive throwers, etc. Was stored somewhere other than Darnassus and that their Capitol was defended by nothing but Civlians and their Faction Leader. You can’t be this Dense.
Do I have to remind you the reasons Blood Elves never rejoined the Alliance was because the latter thanks to Night Elf influence treated them like a potential catastrophe in the making that needs to be monitored and instead of earnest attempt at help they instead sent spies dressed up as diplomats? Same Alliance that could have kept tabs on their warlocks but instead pretended they don’t exist while officially banning them. Same that would once again treat the Nightborne with disdain putting the weakened rebels and civilians on the front during the fight? Yeah that alliance.
Void elves were lucky because they had Alleria vouch for them which automatically granted her Husband’s full support. They would likely not be accepted otherwise.
What were they going to be doing from the top of that tree? Hurl scathing insults and insinuations about their parentage at the Horde? There were few troops up there, just enough to keep order, the rest were, you know, on the ground fighting the Horde, or on those boats to Silithus, because plot-hammered stupidity.
The whole strategic plan was “The civilians be safe in that tree, even if they do get through all our armies on the ground”, alas, they didn’t count on plot-guided projectiles and Sylvanas’ scheming with the Jailer.
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Your respect means nothing helfer
Warlocks have never been banned in the Alliance. There’s a specific quest in the Classic Warlock questline where you go on to assassinate a nobleman who’s trying to pass legislation against the Warlocks. At the same time, the Silver Hand Paladins (You know, what constitutes for Millitary Officers in the Alliance) actively cooperates with the Warlocks of Stormwind in their own questline. Where are you pulling that from?
Is there a source on this? The Blood Elves did not rejoin because they turned into a pariah state, cut off all contact with the world, became part of the Illidari, ended up crashing a Draenei ship and started turning Bloodmyst into a radioactive hellscape. Which in turn caused the Night Elves to gather intelligence in Eversong because the BElves isolated themselves.
How do you even reach that conclusion? The Alliance didn’t put any Nightborne civilians on the front, the Nightfallen did so on their own. You can argue that the Blood Elves did the same, seeing how they’re half of the foreign force in Suramar.
Your words carry no weight or value antihelfer.
And their sunwell has been the cause of Azeroth’s peril twice since.
So yeah, doesn’t feel like that view was misplaced, was it? 
Besides; that’s just dumb lore made up to cover up the ACTUAL reason.
The Horde needed a ‘pretty race’ to appeal to more players.
So they gave one of the most iconic alliance races, high elves, to the horde.
Alliance bias, indeed. 
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And the Draenei became Space Faring Legion Haunted Race because Blizzard forgot they already written their lore.
In al seriousness the relationship between Elves and Humans wasn’t great regardless. They only joined during the second war because human waved the old promise made back during the troll wars (so like good 2700 years prior), and even then didn’t fully commit until Amani Boosted Horde proved to be an actual threat. Their later bailing partially boosted Garrithos’ natural Bigotry so when the remaining Elves tried to actually patch the things up he as a highest ranking officer of the Alliance sanctioned by Ironforge and Stormwind tried to execute the Elves that were under his command after they survived a suicidal mission he tasked them with
Silvermoon been 100% Horde before midnight so this compromise is already catering big times to the alliance.
This yes. Alliance players are still entitled and argue in bad faith.
[quote=“Tah-earthen-ring, post:33, topic:594299”]There’s only wins there, and still you whine.[/quote]
Losing almost all of Silvermoon to neutrality is not a victory.
No.. usually the alliance gets everything and the horde nothing. Of course the alliance players support these obvious bias and privileges.
Blood elves no longer being with the alliance was already a thing by the time Warcraft 3 was over
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Say thank you to the Alliance for saving the BE, again. And receive your saviours with courtesy.
That is not catering to the alliance. That’s catering to the horde, but making sure the other faction isn’t completely left out in the cold with nothing.
There is no fair alternative, unless Blizzard actually puts the time and effort into making seperate horde and alliance campaigns and giving alliance updated Draenei areas or alternatively updated Gilneas (mostly because it’s closer to Silvermoon).
Because you cannot give one faction a fancy new capital as a hub and give the other faction some tents in a corner of a zone (or whatever half baked solution you think would be ‘acceptable’).
And yet there’s still plenty of alliance affiliated high elf NPCs around. In cities, settlements and lodges.
Weird how that works, isn’t it? 
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Umbric and Arator have more story in the first zone then all blood elf leaders combined.
Literally what we had in bfa.
Story =/= player experience.
Don’t move the goalposts.
This is about one faction getting updated zones and an updated capital and the other faction not getting any such thing. So OF COURSE they needed to give the Alliance a space in that new hub.
Yes. And haven’t had since.
I would like that to return too.
Complain about that. Instead of this nonsense.
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