How long has Illidan been out compared to new patch 9.2 ?
Also a lot of pugs and some guilds do not log.
You are also compareing a raid people are progressing to a raid thats been out and known for 14 years.
Retail is changing alot if you donāt see that you are blind asā¦ now wrath was much easier then retail ever was, now you can say addons make retail raiding easy it is tbh but still some people stand in everything
WOTLK will not even beat the classic 60 levels of players at launch.
Classic was very overhyped and a massive drop off when people realised the time sink that it was.
You are not going to draw that crowed back with another expansion
This is the 9th or 10th week of illidan, compared to 5th or 6th of the other raid. Even if sepulcher kills continue at this rate (which they wont because raiding participation reduces every week), it will merely be at half the amount of kills that illidan has. Also keep in mind that the argument that people donāt log also goes for classic. In addition, keep in mind that illidan is also the last boss.
I think there is enough proof and evidence to prove that classic raiding is way more attractive that retail and more people enjoy that raiding type of philosophy/reward.
So if WotLK is more popular you have already pre selected the reason why?
Niceā¦
All it shows is more people clear the raidā¦ says nothing about the popularity of raiding.
All the numbers show otherwise. Can you prove to me that retail raiding is more popular?
Niceā¦ trying shift the burden of proofā¦
Well i did the research on my part. You are saying though, even though I provided the proof, that its not true. Where is your proof then?
As I pointed out, all you āshowedā is that more people killed Illidan than The Jailor, that doesnāt prove anything.
I can do the same level of research, most people have a bad paying job, therfor people are more happy with a bad paying job.
No that is not what I proved. If you scroll a bit higher and read my post you will see 
This one read
As I edited above.
Most people have poor paying jobs, therfor people prefer bad pay for working.
Youāve done nothing to connect one with the other.
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Im simply showing raiding participation. And no raiding isnāt a job, people do it to get loot or have fun raiding. In fact, the retail raid is way more accessible with more difficulties and skips. Even so, it still has significantly less participation than the current tbc raid.
And youāre missing the point. Well done.
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And what point exactly is it that Iām missing? As I said, a lot more people are currently raiding in TBC than in retail, which means that more people are attracted to that activity, whether that is to gain loot, enjoy the raid, parse, or speedrun.
(I donāt see how more people raiding doesnāt directly correlate to the raid being more popular)
You do not have pug kills at all which are a lot so please spare me your āproofā
Man leave them alone, if devs want better for the game they will just need to stop listening to these spoiled people, aaaaaand they got offended now, yes, thats what they do, complain all time and always being impatient and wanting more comfort, good job god, what a great job at new age era, in fact they did their mistake themselves, no god here to judge, hell he is even wondering what the hell are they doing, his little innocent children.
I do have pug kills. Pugs log too
Disagree, some player demographics demand stuff guaranteed to really, really annoy other demographics, so Blizz can try to cater to allā¦but it is pretty much impossible to truly please allā¦not to mention the fact divides between player demographic opinions of systems have existed since Vanillaā¦Attunements can get in the sea.
Also the most vocal demographics tend to have a direct financial interest in the changes they are demanding, regardless of whether it benefits the gameā¦particularly the gatekeeper/boosters, who want to be paid by you, so you can experience the entirety of the group content game and target specific drops through master loot, whether you enjoy the experience is entirely irrelevant to them, as long as they get paid because you cannot experience that content without them.
Not forgetting the demographic that want Blizzard/other gamers to pay for them to play free WoW on lifesupportā¦again, regardless of whether it benefits the gameā¦because free.
There is also the demographic who just want to close WoW down, unless it conforms to conservative values, which mostly appear to involve having as many semi-naked female figures as possible in-gameā¦boob sliders for female character creationā¦ the ability to use abuse a lot in public, without repercussionsā¦and again, the game being free.
Every single pug or guild does not log can you please understand that also numbers for TBC have dropped by a lot hence the recent free char moves from dead to busy realms.