by gypsy law i must be it seems 
You guys just cant help yourselves lol
Doesnât matter anyway because the one shadowboxing fairy howling about it wonât take an apology nor treat you as an individual. Weâre all part of the waycist pee she you overmind.
Damn, I heard that weird fart noise again. Hum, what could it beâŚ
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Another lie about the apology, when it doubt boosht they spout
Probably is something silly. I donât get it. Keep arguing about nonsense. Every thread the same. You should make RP posts instead.
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By the name of blessed Bahaullah I wish AD wasnât a neurotic circus.
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Itâs not beneficial as it is something people confront them with and prove them wrong about.
Considering 30 people, which may be more, it would be already the 10% of the community in this thread alone, with officers/ex-officers backing up gaslighting and similar tactics.
Yes, itâs bad.
Vixi said that asking for a list of people was âstrange and creepyâ, and I said thatâs less strange and creepy than looking for names on check-pvp, which is acknowledged as okay by most, and causes worse repercussions.
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Howâs that a contradiction?
Is it even needed? I mean, if anyone really wants to have a list of pcu members, all they need to do is look at the list of pcu guilds, which I think is available on the forum and then just look through the rosters of those guilds on the armory.
If one suspects someone of being a pcu alt mole on the forums or whatever, they could simply use the oldschool method and compare the pets and mounts of the suspect and the people in the list. Sure, that would be quite cumbersome and require the person to form a list themselves, but if they really canât sleep at night without that knowledge, thatâs kind of on them.
Clearly, it is considering what is going on in this thread.
At this point it could have been posted already. Yet people feel the need to argue against it. It has to be a big deal for them.
To me it looks like this conversation has moved way past the argument about how many pcu people posted in the thread. Unless I misread something, it seemed like people, you included have been arguing for pcu to have a list of all the members for the sake of transparency, no?
To which I say, it is there, but with extra steps.
How is it not?
You admit that you have no issues with check-pvp per se, low-key acknowledging that it has its uses in i.e recruitment, yet it is stranger and creepier than manually making a list of people from X community, which has one purpose only?
Heâs making a list, heâs checking it twice, heâs gonna find out whoâs naughty or niceâŚ
I think no one - not me - has been arguing anything like that.
When I speak about the list, I refer to a comprehensive list of all the people who are associated with the PCU and that have posted on this thread.
And I mean their avatar names. So for example if Buddy has posted on this thread with an alt while being in the PCU discord/guilds, I donât want to know who they are in-game, but simply to know that they belong to the PCU in some shape or form. Buddy could be a level 10 forum poster and no one would be able to track him down as Pestilence, Daggers, or whatever edgy name has been given to their main.
It is, yes? Check-pvp has more harmful consequences (its also manually checking plenty of names to keep track of who is who, not sure why the term âmanuallyâ has any relevance here).
Instead the list wouldnât have consequences that are far-reaching. And it would be rather useful to prove that: a) people were lying, b) people knew there were hidden alts and use that to their advantage to gaslight others, c) there is actually a good amount of people associated with the PCU that raids the forums, d) a false narrative is being pushed.
Aaand if you donât want a list to be asked, then donât do any of the above as a community.
I will pay you 50eu paypal if you make that list and prove every single point that you just posted and send it to me/post it here/make it public
Iâm really confused here and will be honest, didnât read half of this sh!tpost since probably this time yesterday.
Why is Zaphius so adamant about having a list of whoâs PCU? Sounds to me like thatâs opening people up to some major discrimination there, but surely they wouldnât do that right? It wouldnât be very social contract of them.
Also, still not PCU.
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Because Zaphius believes that people who are not in PCU are not toxic. Because he knows for a fact that the said list wonât be used as a tool to harass people within another community.
At least that is the hill he is trying to die on right now
Arguing for the sake of it, nothing less, nothing more. Ironic since he was the one who started the list thing, no one had asked him to do the first one.
Definitely wouldnât be very social contract of him if he allowed that.