Stopping past season elitemog earning from becoming vicious saddles seems like a matter of implementation, no?
Like, say, restrict mogs to require whatever rating you required back when it was current season mog, and then grind out the “progress” in/above that rating, similar to how the mount progress works now.
Because it’s never clear with those evens on what is permanent/recurring and what is not.
But thats the thing… You won’t be able to… Because some seasons are super inflated… People went up to 3.6k CR once… Some seasons people are sitting at 2.8k max… So saying “oh you need 1.8k” in a 2.8k cr season is vastly different from a 3.6k season…
But let me ask you too… why do you feel people should be able to skip a season or multiple and be eligable for rewards they didn’t compete for?
They literally wrote the tier sets will return in future anniversaries… So thats not true.
Getting to the point of 2.8k being equal to 3.6k cr is way past the point of any elite gear threshold as to not matter at all.
And from my experience of having played in most seasons, there aren’t that many, if any, seasons where a 1.8k andy was getting to 2.2k+
It literally does matter… Because that means the season is inflated = easier to get 1.8k CR…
But in an inflated season 1.7 players would be getting 1.8 easily.
and since you jumped over it, I will ask again:
I’ll be honest, 1.8k elite gear is already set to such a low threshold that I don’t really feel concerned if a 1.7k bro gets a 1.8k set.
And if you set a MoP 2k set’s threshold to 2k and Cata’s 2.2k set’s threshold to 2.2k, you’re still not seeing 1.7k andies getting those sets.
Life happens, maybe someone just did not have the means to play in a season, even if they were good enough to earn the cosmetics.
It doesn’t really matter to me one way or another since I’ve earned an elite set in every season since late legion. I’m just spitballing potential ways to implement a method that’s as fair as possible.
Okay, there I misunderstood you, thats my bad! I thought you wanted to go the other way, so gear requirement was just transformed, so if it was 2.1k before it would translate to what is 1.8k now
Indeed life does happen. And maybe your priorities are somewhere else, and that is fair. I just don’t see the “fairness” of people being able to give 0 attention to a game mode and then come later and claim the exact same reward as someone who actually sweat through and earned it.
I would be enticed to say, if your account wasn’t active at a given season you get 1 season chance to earn 1 extra tmog for what was back then the requirement. If you don’t you also lose the chance to earn it.
And then just make it account specific so you can’t merge it with another account removing the possibility of just making a new account and moving the character later.
Because as I said, for me, if you have an active sub, but you prioritize not participating for whatever reason I don’t think you should be eligable. There is transmogs enough, everyone complaining probably have multiple pieces they have never used in their collection.
The entitlement of wanting stuff just needs to stop. Everyone knows how elite sets work, and if you aren’t good enough and refuse to put in the time to improve, I also don’t think you should just be able to get it later or when you can be bothered learning.
They already did nerf the requirements substantially to a point where it’s super easy to get… Even the weapon enchant is now 1950 CR… No more please…
Ngl this is really not a concern for me. I think if you’re good at the game then you’re good, even if you only decide to engage with that 15 years after you started playing.
Ok let’s keep a little perspective on this, most sets at this point are 1800, you don’t need to “sweat through” to get to that.
In fact, apart from the tabards and weapon enchants, all the cosmetic stuff has been fairly low rating/casual viable for the most part throughout the game’s history.
Sure - but this for me is the principle. Because making the change for elite sets would be a snowball effect of the rest. Next come glad mounts, then PVE rewards, suddenly everything is just vicious saddles and no one really cares about anything anymore.
But this is not about how hard or easy it is. This is about feeling entitled to something you didn’t even participate in.
When I say “sweat through” I was talking in the perspective of someone thats learning. For most pvp players, the 1.8 is fairly casual, I think that would be fair to say. Just like the KSM is fairly casual to PVE players.
But(!) when people want to take that, and go “I should be able to in season 4 to earn rewards from previous expansions that I didn’t bother to go for” that becomes a no for me.
I really wanted the pink warlock elite set from Legion, but I had just started playing the game, and I had literally no idea how anything worked. I didn’t work for it or tried to learn, instead I just enjoyed farming mounts in Dungeons / raids, lvling alts etc.
I did learn throughout BFA and started getting the sets from then and onwards on multiple classes… But I don’t think I should now be able to suddenly get mogs I didn’t go for back then…
We have so many things in the game, that is just obtainable for little to no effort, and it does add something to have stuff that is obtained through effort and something you can work towards…
People only care for the elite mogs because they are time exclusive… Same with every other time limited stuff… People have FOMO and because they don’t want to put in the effort they want things nerfed. That is what I am opposed to.
If you really want the mog, you should be able to in 4-5 months (a season length) learn to play your class to a 1.8k cr level
Aka, “let me get that prestigeous reward without having actually done any work or a show of skill for it”.
God forbid there are unique and rare sets in the game.
You could let people buy maybe one old set per season if they get glad in that season. But marks of honor? Hahaha, no.
I refer you to Wwhelp’s posts above.
For my part I have zero interest in a hand-out. I do have an interest in earning something, and it grinds down to implementation rather than principle in my books.
Anyway Blizzard is never going to do it. If they make rewards from previous seasons available, there will be less incentive to play during the current season because you can always get the reward later.
The implementation is very important in this case, as we are talking about in some cases about very rare sets. That’s why I think the requirement should be at least glad (not elite). And limited to one purchase per season.
Exactly! Why gear your characters 3-4 times per expansion, if you can just wait till season 4 and gear them once and grind out all the sets? I mean if you’re only playing for the sets it would almost be stupid to play season 1-3 and a big time waste
Do you even read the proposed changes?
Even if you do it later, you still need to get the required ratings and put in the time.
I really think you need to read what you’re replying to yourself… They just state that it would lessen the incentive to play during current seasons and that the requirement should be raised to glad level and not “the required ratings”
The default escape argument for you numbskulls.
It’s a digital game, there was no reason to remove the rewards in the first place.
It’s a digital game, there is no reason for you to feel so strong about it to have an argument on the forums about it.
Same logic.
That or
Do you do lottery numbers as well?
They haven’t done it in 17 years. I like my chances.