What is the reason some people don't want soloQ?

will def fix having honor leeching in there
59 bracket and 60 is full of ppl who care less for winning

Boosters and those who got boost.

Why? Boosters have to drop rating to boost you at low rating, to have any chance for win. They are at 1500 not in magic way, they losing games on purpose until they 1500 or whatever they want.
I don’t think Blizzard can do anything about it, they losing games against random players it’s not against any rules…but i could be wrong.

I wasn’t speaking about boosters there, I was speaking about premade team, made by guild and comunity, facing random team created by LFG.

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It wouldn’t remove 3v3 or 2v2 bracket , people who have interest in playing with friends will play with there organised teams

If Soloq was it’s own thing with it’s own rank and it’s own titles that kept it exclusive of these why the ^$€& not

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Pretty much because;

  1. We have no clue what side effects it will cause and if they manage to implement it perfectly (they won’t).
  2. Then some are prob better off queueing solo than with their friend. Seems undesirable for an MMORPG.

Just fix the gear-gap and balance. If you then can’t make friends to do Arenas with then well…so be it.

I mean there’s an easier way, let conquest be gathered in random bg, but not for wins directly.

Make conquest only available if you complete an objective in the bg such as defend or capture a flag or objective, killing a boss in epic bg etc.

Also make it so if younhave under a certain damage or healing in a game your points aren’t awarded.

Then make the conquest double on a win.

Example: AB capture a base or in the area at time of capture is 2 conquest and 15 honor defend a base awards 2 conquest a kill and 15 honor if in the area of the flag to get the defend buff and awards 2 conquest per 2min at a base defending

A random kill still award honor off a base but no conquest

You win it doubles the lot likely to around 40 a win.

It means you can’t afk, winning is the only real way to get the points.

Then to top it off you have you’re own track in background for rating in a bg. That will cap in rbg at 1600 equivalent.

Arena and rbg can go to 2k

Everyone wins players can play and progress, top players are rewarded respectively.

Then to stop premades, honor and conquest gains are halfed and diminish the more games you play in a 24hr period together.

Internal cd on too many of one server joining into one game at once split the groups.

Gear is appropriate for pvp at all levels reducing the pvp gear disparity, pve won’t whine as the gear isn’t appropriate for pve so high ilvl means nothing still won’t be optimal.

Finally all awards at end of game win or lose so afk out doesn’t benefit you at all. A loss with some honor is better than leaving.

Pvp can play and enjoy.

Undesirable to you doesn’t mean undesirable to someone else… far too many people in this game try to play that card, the ‘Oh but it’s an MMO so you MUST play with friends’ card. When the reality is that MMO’s are the absolute perfect game for solo players and groups of friends, I’ve played literally every expansion solo since halfway thru TBC and never, ever have I needed to form a group to play the game. Why on Earth would I want to limit myself to playing with the same 9 boring people, game after game, day after day? I prefer the far more social side of playing with many different people during the day. But cue the ‘But you’re not being social if you don’t play with others’ yet I interact with far more people on a daily basis than the vast majority of people in premades will. Toxic players and toxic play have ruled and made what could have been a great game for years, a bit of a pile of crap.

No it will not.

You are depending on 2 other players to reach your max. capacity.

That was the always issue in solo rated queue,you have it in other games,its 101% opposite of what you think solo queue is.

Simple logic.

If you cant reach 1600 rating or 1800 with premade,where you can pick people and builds you want to play with,how do you expect you can climb with 197 ilvl arcane mage or fury warrior who have no trinkets?

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Correct, someone may have a different opinion.

But you seem to be pulling my comment to the extreme. I only said that situations may occur where queueing randomly is better for you and your progression than queueing with your friend you usually queue with. You can twist and turn as much as you want, that’s odd.

Still you are here.

Like now?

Nice

Exactly

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I don’t think I’d personally play it if they implemented it.
But I understand there is a demand for it.
Honestly if they beta’d this idea we could probably get a better understanding on whether it could actually work or not :woman_shrugging:

Just some shower thoughts;

  • Since people can bypass random battleground queues, and have done for years, what would stop them from doing the same with solo queue and getting easy rankings from people who have never played together? I just see it as one more thing boosters are going to find a way to exploit.
  • Toxicity. I understand on paper it sounds like a dream come true for off meta specs but I can only imagine the amount of hate the likes of a mistweaver or demo lock would receive if they queued. Maybe not so much in the lower brackets but as you get higher. Maybe you make one group eat humble pie by being the greatest off meta they’ve ever seen. Just to queue into another group that’s going to have the same thoughts at the beginning.
    Honestly if it’s anything like skirmish chat I suggest you go in with steel-skin.
  • Would the RBG and solo queue RBG brackets both have their separate rankings?
  • What happens if you’re queued with a really good team or a few good players who want to keep in touch? Would you abandon solo queue to push in another bracket with them? Is that what you’re ultimately hoping for or would you continue solo queuing regardless?

Good point.

I think it should break teams after each game or 2. You will have very small chance to end in same team not like bgs in russian battlegroup. Like very small chance.

Only noobs don’t want solo because they know how bad they are at playing this game. Simple as that!

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Im paying a monthly subscription to sit hours in LFG.
Soloque would let me play the game i already pay for, WOW is the only game with a pvp element that dosent have soloque bcs Bli$$ard benefits from the tokens/boosts, there is no other posibile explanation, not a single valid one.

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Yeah, sorry, did go off on a bit of a rant on that one lol… have literally gotten to that point tho with how bad the game has become for the solo/casual player.

Eh that’s fine :stuck_out_tongue:

I still feel like that improving the gear-gap/power situation and rebalance the absolute nut-specs will have a much better effect on the casual group than introducing a Queue system. But hey, so many players beg for it now, including streamers, that it’s ought to happen at some point now. Just gotta hope that they do not mess it up as with…well…anything else PvP related.

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  1. I don’t know exactly how they do it and i can’t really answer to that. However, i think if you cap the rewards ilvl, say from 226 you get in team, to 220 …i’m sure they won’t really care about exploiting the queue system. Usually those people do such things for honorfarming or achievement farming… It’s still better for them to play to randoms to do achievements and honorfarm it would be way easier for them.

  2. Toxicity is already in game in many levels.
    Personally i don’t care about if someone “talks bad” to me…i can either answer back if i find it fun or just block him and keep playing…!
    Just ignore an continue…who gives a – …you are there to play, so play and don’t give a – about the random whiner… This thing you can avoid.
    You can’t avoid the toxicity of bring 2400xp to play – 1300cr.
    Not to mention a losing streak won’t make me toxic…waiting 1 hour to play a game,get in…play a game win or lose group disbands…now i need another hour in lfg…this will make me toxic,because i’m wasting real time…who – the ratings when people wait hours to play a game.
    Anyhow, you won’t see anything special …since you can see the same toxicity in every kind of content UNLESS you have stable teams (and even there sometimes but in a different way).

  3. Yes there should be 2 different rankings…because we ask an extra mode…not a way to bypass lfg…solo vs solo for equal footing…has nothing to do with team queues, should be extra bracket or no point playing it anyway.

  4. Keep names and talk to them… Go play team queues with them.
    The best argument against solo queue is that it will split the playerbase…
    However, there you can meet ppl and see how they play, which can actually bring more people in all brackets.
    If you see someone that you can play together ask him…plus…you would already be in similar rating in solo queue, and that’s proof enough that you both can play similarly…now…if the combination and the cooperation goes ok is another story…

4b. If that happens…you can still play team rated any bracket and solo queue if you want to play solo…nothing forces you to do either…

That would be the sensible place to start but don’t think they have the know how to make all specs viable, so they tend to concentrate on a few each xpac and allow the rest to suffer. It renders a lot of the content completely useless and impossible to get into for certain specs. It’s fine for those who are happy to reroll to whatever is best at the time but for some of us, we just want to be able to play the spec we have always and will always play and not be excluded for certain content that we pay the same sub prices for. There has to be some middle ground, the middle ground really could and should be just Randoms but it’s not even possible to get any kind of sensible games in there any more because as soon as most people hit their rating, they then panic about losing it so they just come to randoms instead with their superior gear and their premades, which has resulted now in so many people wanting solo Rated queues cos why not? We’re facing these rated players all too often in randoms anyway now.

this game just needs soloq to work nowdays