What "Social Aspect" is left to preserve in Dungeons? my experience after 60 wrath dungeons

Back in the day you queued for random hc and it would throw you in any hc, even the ones you already had before.

Sorry but that’s not true.

They could’ve just disabled the lockout skip, the only reason it was in the original version was to widen the amount of eligible players. You’d get slower queues, but they could definitely just remove it.

No he’s right, random allowed you to “bypass” lockouts cause it widened the potential people you could get queued with.

It generally wasn’t a problem cause people didn’t tryhard this much back then.

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It doesn’t, it would even tell you which heroics your party members were locked out from.

either with or without that being the truth, they still needed a timesink, keeping ppl from getting ported into any dung is a timesink, having ppl make their own groups instead of being grouped automatically is a timesink

If you queued specifics, yes. If you queued random, no.

It made no difference, if you only had one heroic left to complete that would be the one everyone in your group would have to queue for.
As long as one boss is killed, you cannot do that heroic again that day in any cirumstance
wowpedia.fandom com/wiki/Patch_4.3.0#Dungeons_.26_Raids
" * Players who use [Dungeon Finder]for a random Heroic dungeon will no longer be locked to that instance. Previously, players who entered an instance via the Random Dungeon option were then prohibited from queuing for that dungeon or entering the instance manually via the portal. Players should now always be able to complete a specific Heroic dungeon once per day regardless of any random dungeons completed."

During WOTLK the RDF tool Bypassed daily lockout.

www DOT engadget DOT com/2009-12-08-patch-3-3-the-dungeon-finder-guide-page-2.html

The randomness of the random dungeon dailies aren’t completely random. While the text does specify the dailies as random, they’re not really. The system tries to make sure you aren’t running the same dungeon over and over again. With random mode on, it will allow you to bypass your normal heroic lockouts. This means if the dice gods are against you, that random dungeon could be one you really don’t like. However, the system tries really hard not to do that.

Yeah but do you have any actual evidence?
Don’t you remember Random ICC dungeon? It would be easier to complete all 3 in a day, so you’ll have better memory of it. What happens when you complete all 3 of them? The option to queue for Random ICC dungeon disappears. It was the same when you completed all of the Heroics with the RDF.
Also, you would literally never get the same ICC heroic and the chances of it happening would be much higher.

Strictly talking “Random Heroic” which had this bypass from day 1.

Well surely there would be an example of it happening.
Edit: and on the page about Emblems it says
"*As of patch 3.3, you can gain Emblems of Triumph…

from each boss defeated in any level 80 5-man heroic instance (60/62 total)*"
" * two from completing your second (and later) random heroic Lich King dungeon instances (the first awards Emblems of Frost) (max of 30 emblems)"
wowwiki-archive.fandom com/wiki/Emblem_of_Triumph

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LF Tanks spam
Every loot is HR
You dont get invite cus your not metaclass
None joins your group cus your not metaclass
Autism

Thats manual dooooongeon finder in a nutshell.

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The open world was killed because everything is phased on Retail since MoP/WoD.

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Yeah I gave up too, I’m not there for a sit and chat, but it’s like grouping with bots basically.

Alot of players simply dont even say hi or bye, they group, complete dungeon and leave.

“Go go go” is about as social as groups get

I thought I was a strong silent type but…I have nothing on current wow players, they are like iron *(Drako vs rocky voice)

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My experience with LFG system is me a druid being constantly spammed by "Wane heal this or wane tank that " whispers even though i am not even signed and me as a feral DPS getting “…crickets …” when looking for a group .

So it’s like mythics in retail?

You got the point.

Yeah its very cringe how much minmaxing people are trying to do in dungeons,
Like most of the time it ends up being worse especially with skips.

Just to add:

he vast majority of anti-RDFers is basically these 5 trolls on these forums, every normal person wants RDF back in

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