Sylvanas forced a war on everyone to feed her jailer buddy. This facilitated an old god escaping. We made a mess.
That’s the story of BfA.
This is not true. There’s plenty of options to bring them back. Case in point; they brough Illidan back for Legion.
Having said that; I don’t want to see them back. They were both big disappointments, not only from a story standpoint, but also from an aesthetic standpoint (I hate underwater stuff and tentacle/eye stuff more than ever now).
It’s nearly as if Sylvanas in this expansion is like symbolism to represent the government and bankers claiming to be your friend and help to protect you, but at the same time indoctrinate you into debtslaves, to control you and make you do their will. A story based on real life in which you can never really win. Very interesting story!
I guess this is a problem with stories, especially mmos that go this route, at some point the player just becomes so strong that it can cause inconsistencies.
What do you mean, while doing yesterday’s questline I got stuck in a net that wouldn’t restrain a big dog
Also apparently neither me or Magni can deal with a wall of amber.
Remember when VolJin picked Sylvanus to be the warchief because of “some old god influence”?
Pepperridge farms remembers. That was before BFA
Did you seriously take that as an indication of the power of the characters? It’s pretty obvious that it there just to prolong the questline, do i seriously have to explain that gameplay mechanics are not indicative of how strong a character is, but rather what is indicated by the story is?
Like do you really think that magni and the champion would not be able of destroying a wall when they defeated threats that are able of doing way more than that?
Unless you are joking and i didn’t really get it.
Succinct precis… I enjoyed the storyline in BFA, particularly the fact it was worth playing both factions, to fully appreciate the story… although with hindsight I would have followed the Horde story first.
Doing Alliance first, if you hadn’t read the WoW novel, made certain parts of the story rather obscure, until I caught up on the Horde.
I was providing examples for inconsistencies that you talked about.
Welp, that would have made the story Warlords of Azeroth, so I’m glad they changed their minds.
If indeed they did, Bellular isn’t always correct in his interpretations, and Azerite and the Heart of Azeroth were there at the beginning…which means I think BfA was Old God shenanigans from the get go.
The old gods were more or less alluded in Legion already, like the Saberton and Yrel have also hinted in this expansion during the Mag’har Orc campaign for either becoming a new enemy or allies), the problem has nothing to do with them but Sylvanas’ original motivation which has changed and how Blizzard said after the 19’ con that this was her master plan from the very beginning, which is a lie.
Welp, where would the surprise be, if Blizz had told us exactly what they were going to do, at the start… the ‘morally grey’ ruse was always extremely suspect.
Sylvanus has always been a great deal more interested in avoiding her fate on the other side, rather than beating the Alliance… ever since she went skydiving off Ice Crown Citidel.
Ah ok, although, it wasn’t exactly what i meant, it was more related to the story, i can accept the fact that for gameplay purposes the true power of the champion cannot be shown, but i was more talking about weaker enemies than what we have already fought giving us trouble, that was more what i was talking about.
For example, realistically, queen Azshara wouldn’t have been a problem to deal with, old gods, yea, but we have fought worse at this point, legion i mean.
That was what i was talking about, i do not mind it that much, but i do not like this, we are but pawns to n’zoth, that i do not like, especially considering we have fought bigger threats, i also do not like this faction war much at this point, realistically, if the champion did not like sylvanas, that would have been the end of her, that’s it, i do not care how op they try to make her, she is not as powerful as the champion that was selected as the best of their respective spec in legion, and as the carrier of the heart of azeroth in bfa. No way.
These are the inconsistencies i am talking about.
Afaik Azshara is supposed to be as powerful as Archimonde and KJ
Yes? Maybe even more powerful, so what? Still not nearly as powerful as argus or aggramar.
I mean at this point there is so much evidence pointing to the fact that the champion is ridiculously powerful.
But let’s get to the obvious, artifacts and heart of azeroth, now, would you give such powerful artifacts to your run at the mill adventurer or to the strongest person around? I would guess the second.
Second, it’s directly stated in some of these artifact lore, that really powerful canon characters were not able to control or fully use the artifact to the maximum potential, one example, is elemental shaman fist of ra den, Lei Shen was not able to control this artifact, you have to understand that Lei Shen is ridiculously powerful.
Third, the artifact was selected at the start of legion, end of wod, by the end of wod, our characters were already at the apex of their respective class, by the end of legion i would assume they got even more powerful, probably at least twice as powerful, at the very least.
I mean, there is just too much evidence pointing to the fact that the champion is not to be trifled with, at this point it’s in the top tier in terms of power in wow. To deny it, and say that the champion is really not that strong, or, to say that they are strong only because of their artifacts, is ridiculous and disingenuous.
I am a bit confused here, again. What is Baine doing in Stormwind? He is part of alliance now or what?
BFA: Bad For Alts
No you are supposed to compare N’Zoth to Argus/Aggramar
And I think its pretty clear who is the winner here
You are supposed to follow the cycle
For example
G’huun - Xavius
Jaina - Gul’dan
Azshara - KJ
N’Zoth - Argus
basically sylvanas manipulated the horde into a genocidal rampage to empower herself/the jailer for her personal gain.
in the end she won (even if not to the full extent she wanted) while the alliance and the horde lost.
also, while people were distracted in the war/healing azeroth, n’zoth broke free.
WoD i could actully enjoy playing my class still.
I don’t remember what class skills were like In wod.
Might be because raid gear become a Facebook game in a game.
The garrisons removed most reason to ever leave it 
if anything for a lot of players skills were just pretty art.
Ok, whatever you think.
It’s incredible that in spite of all the evidence people still find some outlandish hypothesis about how old gods really are just as strong.
They are not.
But you think whatever you want.