You missed out the part where Sylvanas flies away on her airship looking smug at all the horde and Alliance she killed, whilst the Alliance wave their fists angrily at her from the surrounding area.
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Teldrassil was apt repayment for Taurajo, who here agrees?
I was aiming for Stormwind, but this will have to sufficeâŚfor now.
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i didnât give a description of the battle, i just refuted the claim that the Alliance wasnât routed at this point in the battle.
United Horde have not managed to take any Human City, without either opening the doors from inside, which does say that Stormwind was quite formidable place for them to siege.
In good war after Sylvanas burns the Tree, she orders Saurfang to evacuate Undercity straight away. She knew Alliance would come and they would come with grief not glory, thatâs what Sylvanas wanted to lavarage. It was planned by Sylvanas from get go, but Horde was not aware as we find out from Saurfangs reaction.
Blood Elves = | = Kaldorei in power, numbers, experience!
No, just the whole War of Thorns was horribly written. One of my favorite part is Stealthed Horde Army moving from Barrens to Ashenvale.
Go back in your hut Tauren, before we invade it with Murlocks.
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We didnât meet today. I already elaborated on what irritates me, and I shall not do so again for the benefit of you re-reading things which you obviously didnât read the first time.
The Lordaeron capital city wasnât attacked by the united Horde either. No location was.
You also ignore that you have been proven wrong in the case of Ironforge.
I am starting to doubt your reading comprehension at this point.
You said:
Brigante said:
Does this look like heâs agreeing with your statement? On the rest we elaborated and agreed, so I legit donât know where you see that imaginary âdismantlingâ.
You also shot down the argument of Stormwind repelling the Horde by saying that Stormwind was taken, ergo, it is a bad fortress because it was sacked.
According to that logic, Lordaeron Capitol city is also an awful fortress, because it was actually taken thrice. Once by Sylvanas, once by the Alliance and Horde together in WOTLK, once during the Siege of Lordaeron.
What even is your point?
Honestly, at this stage, calling your behavior trolling is more flattering then the other variation.
I donât know why you expect me to discuss something with you in a civil and polite manner when you act like this.
Your attempts to portray the Capital City as some insanely hard to take location because you want to paint a picture of that somehow being a massive Alliance success are not true, and I contest them, because I have never read that the City sits on a good strategic location, and in BFA it is basically a derelict ruin with an open sewer.
I legit donât think I can be clearer then I am.
You do not have sources for your statement, you have failed the time-line for the starvation in Orgrimmar, and you have failed to display basic common sense, as shown above with your âhur dur, Stormwind sucks, it was takenâ argumentation.
And through all of these failures, you keep discussing my manners and lore stance. I mean, seriously. You are legitimately hurting my brain.
I am perfectly willing to be civil to you and give you the benefit of doubt, but for the love of god, give me something to work with.
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Id say they are nowâŚ
And after years of continued portrayal of bad warfare management and lacking strength to fend off invaders, maybe people should start considering that Night elves arenât this kind of unstoppable and unmatched force. Maybe they arenât that of a big deal.
I mean, they won in the WotA thanks to some bunch of obvious trump cards and blatant Deus ex Machina.
Ravencrest died. And the ones that managed to bear the bulk of the war effort ended up being the demigods and guys like Malfurion, Rhonin, etc.
Thatâs my impression by the way. Itâs not as if Night elves have ever managed to have a competent warring portrayal. And it would be fine if at some point Blizzard screwed up with them.
But this has been a constant.
Iâd say that itâs more logical to assume Night elves arenât that pumped, instead of waving the whole thing by implying âBlizzard got them wrongâ every time they gave them a story.
Please, come invade Hyjal. The last few attempts ended so very well for the invaders.
I will -personally- dig you a nice room.
The first time, Night elves needed both the Alliance and the Horde to defend it. And still ended up using one of their remaining trump cards to succeed.
The second time they again needed both factions. And if the stories of the Black Harvest are of any indication, it was the Horde the ones that ended up defeating Ragnaros definetly.
All the Alliance and Horde managed to do at Hyjal was buy time. The plan always was that the Kaldorei would deal the deadly blow to Archimonde, from the very beginning. Jaina and Thrall, even in their current incarnations would have been little more than a speed bump.
That bunch of misfits is your source of reliable information? Come on, pull the other one!
These people donât speak for me. As far as Iâm concerned, I find solace in the forced removal of elves. Let it be clear that they have no rights. Let us instead talk about repayment for Derek Proudmoore.
.âŚâŚand now I stopped missing Arctur. 
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Chronicles Vol 3 mentions that the Molten Core raid was initiated by the Hydraxian waterlords who used adventurers from both sides, and Firelands was done by both Alliance and Horde adventurers
And Zinnin Smythe (worgen warlock) was also there at Sulfuron Keep
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Zinnin was present when Deathwing died.
But the one that boasts about felling Ragnaros was Ritssyn.
All of the warlocks did go in pairs
Legacy of the Masters Part 1: Ritssyn and Zinnin would lead a group into Sulfuras.
âIt is true, pink skin, I was there when the Firelord was vanquished. The intensity of his flame was unlike anything you can imagine.â The burning glow of Ritssynâs eyes cast eerie shadows over his burn-scarred face and thick-tusked grin.
Kanrethad stood up from the table and took a deep breath. âThis is exactly why we are here. I have no love for any of you, but we each bore witness to pieces of even greater power. Imagine - if we fused the molten fury of the Firelands with the unstoppable chaos of Deathwing. Even the powers of the Burning Legion could not hold a candle to our flames!â
Kanrethad sent them to retrieve information in pairs AFTER those enemies had already been defeated.
And the one that was present when Ragnaros died, was Ritssyn
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Are all people in Kulâtiras just like you? No, I donât speak about being fat.
We have not forgotten nor forgiven how the cowardly King Varian Wrynn stood aside as Daelin Proudmoore was tragically massacred by a throng of savages. And we are not fat, just big-boned/bulky.
Say that to your belly or are you pregnant Mrs. Arctur?
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Fair enough regarding Zinnin, but both the Alliance and Horde were involved in defeating the Firelord in Cata.
Dont be ridiculous. Sinâdorei were originally part of Highborne society and Highborne were part of the whole Kaldorei people. While Quelâdorei race barely managed to populate two zones in EK, Kaldorei have dominance (even now) in most of Northern Kalimdor and presence in whole continent. Arthas culled down 90% of elves, plus their life span is not as high as of Kaldorei.
Another thing - in War of Thorns main Kaldorei force was off to Silithus and it is questionable if the united Horde forces would beat Kaldorei forces in full power. In Teldressil mainly civilians died. Also Kaldorei are not only Darnassian nation. So its safe to assume number wise they still hold upper hand on Blood Elves.
Blood Elves also originally took their magic knowledge from Night Elves and improved on that. We saw that even one city of Suramar was in advanced knowledge in arcane magic compared to Sinâdorei. Having Highborne return to Night Elven ranks, the ancient magic knowledge is back in fold.
And experience wise well time = experience.
In my knowledge they have fend off everyone who invaded their lands, prior to World of Warcraft. I wonder why is this a problem in game now? 
Could it be for the sake of âbalanceâ between the factions.
You mean, help of the ancient forces they have been allied to? Wild Gods who have bluntly took side in defence of a mortal race.
Thats only natural, look at your on PC - from Vanilla advanturer to BFA one and only savior and champion of your own faction. Experience = power.
This is due to game limitations and faction balance imo. Kaldorei never had this issue outside of WoW.
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