Thank you, this is gold, I really wanna hear what would do it for people, you just described why half the wow players i nkow went horde, the rest followed to do content and gain more accessto recruits
I no longer begredge the horde having elves to make them ore popular ( they don’t fit there, but they can, they’ve ruined that vibe a bit, but change is acceptable if it has good reasons, Finally it would have been better to give new attractive and beautiful races, like Arrkaoa, Ethereals and Draenei to the horde then switch elves… but tha’ts not how it went).
given how it’s gone though, I think buidling up and restoring the lore of the alliance raecs… biggest gems in the night elves - the stars, the Moon Priestesses, the Highborne, the pre-sudering side, not explored enough, mixing in with much more Illidari involvement in a diverse palatte of groups that come to the forefront - especailly after the Night wariror ritual and the new Black moon.
Void elves could be amazing in so manylevels, not just about tentacles and evil void lords, but the whole cosmos side of things, cna have such a depe connection with the night elves who are originally supposed to be star oreitnated fifrst before the whole nature and arcane things- and making more of the highe lves, especially if void elves are greatly strengthened by high elf counterparts in their lives as pairings - helping to tether them from the void whispers, cementing their ability to withstand the whispers by progressing it to the whispers not having any effect when they are paired. - i think tihs allows high elves to have a void elf related function and a symbiosis as such.
There is a lot of exciting stuff they could do. Can you imagine if you made a high elf you could also design a void elf counterpart and vice versa, this serves as your nPC partner pairing that journeys with you like a follower (hidden for raids, m+ etc)
You are calling that astonishing ?, a haircut the kaldorei have and who look completely ridiculous on nearly every human female face and two that make you look like a tomboy not to say something else that we get me banned yet again.
Some make up that make us look, vulgar/gross/trashy like we earn money from the streets.
Two eye colour option that are completely out of place on human female face purple and pink eyes( what the F’*** really ?)
Jewelry well a collar with a ruby , a emerald or a shaphir and basta , You call that garbage amazing ?
You wanted to swap human customizations with the Kaldorei one, good new I would gladly agree and take what your race receive for once instead of mine !
At this point sorry but nothing can close the gasp and faction imbalance even light touched undead or more extreme and pacifist optoins isn’t gonna get the Alliance balanced.
We’re screwed but atleast me and some others, I don’t have to endure the boost spammer and all of those bad change over the time, I like some others was clever and quick thinking enough to go back the time where none of that is happening or exist !
So ? So You people who brought the Alliance to her knees and who continue the story failizzard feed you on will have to keep enduring this losing in pvp , going less further in raiding and having less people to go far with or do anything.
TBC will come and I will finally leave that game after with some more found memory just to end a circle.
Maybe…and this is a crazy thought…but maybe, Horde races just look cooler?
I mean, the Alliance from the outlook is very “LOTR” styled.
I mean, I’ve almost got my Nightborne Mage to 120 and before I made her, I was weighing up going Void Elf or Nightborne, but I just like the Horde and Nightborne more.
As do I, but in comparison to a faction that has a lot of diversity and various decrees of appearances - it’s natural that perhaps, some people just like that about the Horde.
You can either play a big large, ugly hulking Darkspear Troll or a tubby, larger than life Pandaren or a beautiful Thalassian Elf from a beautiful, enchanted forest.
I see your point, i really do, but the idea isn’t meant to neuter thevoid elves by removing hteir edge, it provides them with both optins and real danger, bwithout nullifyign the edge.
The edge is already in their tenacity and pioneering push, what if more void was losing the void elves? and the only way to restore their sanity and ability towithstand the void was puairing ? you could still have the erratic , dangerous edgy void elfbalanced by the calm, methodical, stoic high elf.
The idea is that this pairing ensures the void elves never lose sanity to the void, it’s not the Illidari 2.0, cos they have help, however if their counterpart is slain, then it can be a very dangerous time for them, and that can provide an extra edge too.
But the problem we’ve got here is that the races of the Alliance are downgraded in their power, to more “Human” levels. So the Night Elven Priesthood can never be fully unleashed because if it exceeds “Human” levels of power, then it’s not good and this is something that has hurt the Alliance’s story.
We never saw this with the Horde as each race brings something and it isn’t scaled to be on par or below the Orc’s levels of power.
Better races? Alliance races is tiny human, tiny human but mechanical, small human, medium human, large human, furry human, void elf, night elf, dranei. Stormwind square is tiny compared to Orgrimmar. Alliance lore is being supporting characters to Horde especially in BFA. But even so none of this is the problem, Horde just feels better to play, it feels united, it has more players, more groups more anything. Alliance looks bland and Horde looks interesting even if you just go to the character creation screen. Just go play a BG as Alliance and you just see these huge Tauren, Orcs and Trolls coming at you and you feel silly, you play Horde and you feel like Hulk smashing tiny humans.
Ah… it wasn’t meant to be…the idea is reminscent of an anime I watched, where the people with power had to work in in balnacing pairs, the pairing forged or extended a bond that was very deep, but the two individuals needed each other access much greater power.
The idea is that as void elves pushed into the void, their was a cap to avoid insanity, and whiles some skittered on the brink , having attachemnts to tether, like Alleria has Turalyon and Arathor enhanced their strength and resolve.
this can be etneded into something magical, that requires a high elf.
Now why high elf? Because it gives a use for high elvse that’s linked to void elves in a cool way.
The problem with alliance is nothaving princiapls, morals, or being rightoeous, it’s how they write them, you can have all tohse things and the opposite and be interesting either way. no one’s just vanilla unless you make them, some oft he most heroic righteous lots, have been anything but Vanilla in hisotry, so if the alliance is coming off as that, it’s not because having a high elf counterpart would be sweet.
It does offer a chance to explore dynamics, pairings, an aspect unique to wow, but mainly high elves as a group connected to void elves. Whether it’s all the high elves who cohose this, or a faction of high elves .
but take it with a pinch salt, it was just a creative extension to give high elves some relevance and void elves more u nique flavour.
I imagine the norm being an edgy, boundary pushing void elf countered by his “voice of reason” high elf counterpart… Think of Shadowhunters the books/tv series where Jace and his brother form a parabatai bond but with a twist, because the void elf needs this to withstand the new waves of void unleashed.
It’s just a rough concept, nothing exact, open to many variations wherever is appropriate to get something interesting, cool, but captivating too - i like the idea of making a void elf and having to design it’s high elf counterpart or vice versa. What a sure way of telling alliance Thalasisans from horde ones, because alliance ones are always in pairs - one purple, one normal.
I get that too, and it has to change, humans are not supposed to be this great infallible perfect group, they have potential, which means that they have some extraoridnary exceptions that can measure up to far more accomplished races like elves and draenei, especially when they come together under a cause, but otherwise it should be clear, very clear that the race with the worlds’ greatest magical civilization and alien spacegoats that can travel through dimensions on spaceships are well above - regardless if when they were encountered by humans they were only living in forest caves or in crashed ruins.
Boring side with 100 different humans - big human, little human, grey human with long ears and so on. The fluffy princess story line with shiny armor knights where nobody dies and no dramas and sissy king at the head.
Exactly, the dwarves really don’t feel like an alien, non human race, or one with a un ique character - which is as hame, beacuse they put that there in their story.
Did you see my point about the ngiht elves? they have lots of features, non used. The dwarves while exploring their titan heritage, has failed to brought out enoguh to make them distinctive.
WE really do’nt know of their battle prowress in wow, we just know that Warhammaer and LotR dwarves a fierce… yet you have Dark hmamers and wildhammers which have dimensions to them that can make the dwarves overall quite unique, even if iironforge bronzebeards are very human like.
And yes, the alliance has been supporting the horde. Look, warcraft was interesting when the horde was actually the truly dangerous non-human like faction that could actually seriously win, where in other similar fantasies, it was always known the humans and friends would win.
Then they did very interesting things with themi n WC3, making them actually quite interesting, as well new players night elves and scourge which were a dimension to dark elves and zombies that was also quite unique.
When the night elves joined the alliance, i felt, the alliance has gained a very powerful ally and from here on shouldn’t actually be the ones far pressed by the horde in major battles, the night elves would swing the advantage their way because they are phenomenal race. They were supposed to be this titanic race. Little did I know they would actually nerf them hard. Rather than be clever about how they used them and how they explained the player hero - who is supposed to be an extra ordinary person of his race, not basically the archetype of his race. Whereas a night elf player would be a typical of his race cos in general all their kind is exceptional. Who lives for 10,000 years, powered by a genetic connection to magical arcane power and hooked up to a magical tree? you’re not going to be normal, yet a human fulfilling his max potential, learning new power, taking advantage of things, unlcoking hidden potential will measure up to legendary races like Night elves and Draeninei. But that’s the excaption, not hte rule. the player hero is the exception, not every human is like this, . Common for the average elf, rare for the average human.
Basically, the hero night elf is an average night elf, the hero human is an exceptional 1 off human, they’re on the same level, becaue humans have that in them, they’re just not their generally speaking - that’s how i view it.
Otherwise it’s meaningless to have all these amazing backstrories and powers on races, then to have humans able to be the be all and end all for everything? the player character, yes, humanity as race? Not reached it’s potential, not even claose.
That’s how it should be.
I also felt, that the night elf inclusion would lead to a race that would somehow be able to top up the horde so the alliance weren’t clear favourites because the night elves were joined. The dark magical zombie forsaken i felt were up to the task.
Yet they messed it all up, or rather didn’t run point on parity. They ditched the alliance, and just went full on horde for everything- i get why they did that, to make people play the h0orde, but they just kept on going , long after thehorde reached the alliance, in about Cata/MoP and kept at it, into WoD. Legion seemed a turning with night elves and draenei dominating, over Highmountain, but no, Nightborne had to go horde too, when it should have been
Swapping faction alone is a scarey move realistically, your going to cut ties to alot of people you did play with for the sake of something new and unknown.
With a social drive it wouldn’t be alone and it wouldn’t feel like you were potientally doing this for nothing.
At the end of the day the concept behind it doesn’t matter what faction or server you play on, it’s the guild your apart of is very true. And it’s at the end of the day what would decide if someone made the move or not in alot of cases.
Otherwise I’m moving factions to just partake in a pug scene which in every sense of the word atleast to begin with would be a downgrade.
I actually do prefer alliance races overall. But I’ve been horde since vanilla. And have alot of friends who play horde.
To leave my current social aspect in the game I’d need a new one and finding that in today’s WoW is extremely difficult
And let you alliance be the only ones to use the Scarlet Sin’dorei Robes and Golden Staff of the Sin’dorei? Not if your grubby little hands depended on it.
Dude, you really need to build a bridge and get over that.