No and you know full well that wasnt the insult she made as she keept calling me a troll and other names when i proved her that i wasnta troll and keep telling her to stop making accusation about me being that. And no i didnt call her a man i called responded with “he” and a he does not mean that a person is a man as you can call a boy a he aswell so and you never ones corrected me as it wasnt nothing to show that i was incorrect in it and also while we are on the topic i CORRECTED her from the start that if she wanted me to STOP then she had to stop making rude namecallings to me that i asked here several respond before that to stop with when i proved her that i was not a troll and she still keept doing it along with other insulting accusations that was incorrect so she is the one to blame for being treated the exacts same insulting way she started acting towards me in the first place. And no i wont admit any mistakes CAUSE I HAVENT MADE ANY are you seriously that dense? so grow up yourself cause you are the one only one who made a mistake and should admit what you did wrong. No it wasnt eight times as you can see in my last repsond.
No im not wrong im correct. and no Blizzard dont agree with you as i have already shown you
No it havent changes even ones as you are the only person saying a certain number while i have always made it clear that its been more than 10 times so the only impressive thing heres is how dumb you are. And yes i have backed up my claims while you have not. And you are the one who started theinults so suit yourself when treated the same way as you can never act in a mature way…
No its not as you already have been shown
Clearly you are not good at it if you dont understand when people explain something to you in english
And again i never said it means zero its you that says that it does and no i have not said i done it ten times i said more than ten times idiot cant you read? so yes clearly you dont understand english that obviously is not native to you if you dont understand the english language
I want to play aliance but i started long time ago on horde and i have many things i dont want to lose and i will not pay money for transfer cause it is too much
Hang on…you do know that a boy and a grown man are both ‘He’ yes? We don’t have different descriptors for the biological sexes in that way. Gender works differently, but in terms of Sexes, ‘He’ applies to an infant even before they emerge from the womb, right until the point of death at (hopefully) a fulfilling old age. Same as ‘She’ does.
The rest of that was a rambling rant with no punctuation, so I don’t even know how to properly address it. No, I never once corrected you, because I didn’t need to, She had already done so. She didn’t need a man to validate her correction. She had not been rude, nor called you names, you just seem unable to control yourself with the way you address people, then act like the injured party, when you are the one throwing around the insults…
Oh, There we go, You make another insult by calling me ‘dense’. Brilliant, you’re on peak performance here…
Err…You do realise there is a difference between “What I say happened” and “What actually happened” Don’t you?
Just because you say you did not call a woman “He” eight times, does not mean that you did not in fact call a woman “He” eight times. Which you did.
No, you really have not, and you clearly did not follow the very simple steps above to indicate to you, why you are wrong. You have given no evidence that Blizzard agree with you, and not me, whereas I have quite simply laid out a way of testing who they agree with.
Do you need me to do so again?
Unlike some people, when I know I am right, I don’t have a problem with repeating my proof, or rather, even stating it in the first place.
So it is more than 10 now? Fantastic, amazing. And another personal insult as well?
Looks at sentence. Shakes head. I think -my- English is fine.
Do you actually ever stop and read other people’s posts? I was the one who -States- that ‘Several’ does not mean Zero. I mean you even copy pasted that in your post! You literally posted evidence that I never said what you said I did. Again with the insults, your stock in trade, and also, hilariously, you copy paste the part of my post when I say you don’t use the word to mean ten either, and then you say “I’ve said it more than ten times!”
You have literally copy pasted a segment then tried to claim that I did not say the things in the post that you have just copy pasted! How does that even work?
Literally nobody is forcing you. People use that word far too much these days. No one is forcing you to play either faction. No one is forcing anyone to do anything in WoW.
I play on both sides. Mostly horde, but last year i made my first alliance characters. It was refreshing to lvl as alliance and see their side of story. I have made few good friends on alliance side and play with them also. If someday blizzard finish missing heritage armors and gives some nice sets on alliance character, i definitely lvlup new character to get it. I just like to look my characters in tmogs what i like.
If they make new races, i think alliance needs something more savage. Something that is big and like to smash everything.
Unlock all the allied races, and offer free 50 boosts for a tank class.
This would increase the number of Alliance tanks, decreasing the time it takes to get into dungeons, making Alliance feel more alive… it will also encourage people to roll more Alliance characters
I sympathise but this highlights the issue in a way.
When alliance players are confronted with the “heroic stop gap” rather than congregate and try to get something going, a vast majority of them defer to horde where the issue is “already sorted” and in doing so they make the problem worse for the next generation of those who reach heroic level, who then conclude the same.
At current it is not literally impossible to raid heroic as alliance. I will be in the future if people continue to jump to horde rather than try and stick with making it work on alliance.
I understand not everyone has the time to wait around and see if they can get such running, but if the heroic raiding community on alliance make a concerted effort to do this it would go some length to combatting the problem but the issue is there is no agreement about it. You have players wandering around in isolation from each other, not quite enough to make a raid group, who find they can’t walk straight into a guild and so they jump to horde, and that’s several heroic players left on alliance. And it repeats each time, making it worse.
As said I have sympathies and nobody should feel forced to “stick around”- and it’s hard to do that when your friends jump ship when you would be prepared to. But the behaviour of alliance players here hasn’t helped at all. It’s completely understandable why people transfer though, it’s the easiest option and probably the most sensible. But it does have the long-term impact of making alliance less and less raiding viable each time it happens.
So we end up with a situation where people point to the WFers and say “maybe they should do it, it will cause people to do x or y” the question is why should they be the only ones to do it? Why can’t other people do it too? The answer to that question is nobody wants to.
It’s like in PvP. People are tentative to engage, nobody wants to “go first” but they’re happy to jump in once the engagement is made. I imagine quite a few people would go back to alliance if raiding was more viable there; the issue is none of them have the conviction to do so until the issue is “already sorted” which confirms to me, they ultimatley don’t care about the alliance as much as they do raiding.
That’s fine.
So the question is how can we make people care about the alliance? Tempting people with free transfers or whatever makes no difference if people don’t care about the faction intended to benefit from them. For this we need to examine the ALliance’s themes, races and general narrative. That is the kind of stuff you “care” about and bond with. You don’t bond with a “good racial” - it’s performance facing.
People will happily play classes they know are not meta- why? Because some things about a class (like theme, experience) make people care about the class more than they care about performance. The alliance needs this kind of stuff because at current it appears to be lacking. Alliance fans probably care, but those who aren’t don’t. There’s no “hook” to tempt them in to make them think “Wow, it’d be awesome to be part of that!” and that is what is sorely needed.
i think discussions about elves and whatnot are beside the point. Transferring all the elven assets to alliance is a cheap way to do it and at the end of the day it won’t make people care about alliance- because it’s a fixation on 1-2 races. There are parts of the alliance that had dedicated fanbases (gnomes, worgen, dwarves, draenei) beyond these elves, so to try and reimagine the alliance as “elves, the true elven faction” may well service some fairweather fans but at what cost?
I think we need to understand most people playing WoW don’t care about races that much. They simply pick something that works and then they stick with comfort. So those belf players? I’d wager over half of them have no idea about belf lore, and simply picked the most aesthetically pleasing race on horde because they’ve been told “Horde is better for x content”. Moving elves to horde or downplaying elves in horde will make no difference to them because they don’t care. If you had to force them to race change into another race because you removed belf, i doubt they’d care, they’d just race change. I don’t think they’d abandon their friends and comfort for the sake of sticking to a race they think looks kinda cool.
So the only way to win alliance back is to make the alliance in-itself appealing for what it is and what themes it has. Trying to erode what the horde is to make the alliance “interesting by proxy” is not the way to do it.
I tried to stick with the Alliance. Sadly, there is no guild at my bracket recruiting, so why should I bother trying to make something work when the opposite side already has a well rounded active Pve community which offers everything I’m asking for?
At this Point, there are way more incentives to play Horde rather than playing Alliance.
yes i know that but a boy is not the same as a man and you said i have called him a man wich i have not try reading…
I wasnt ramblig and it wasnt any rant unlike what you write. Yes she had been rude as i have already proven to you several time when she name called me and keep using insults againt me when i told her to stop are you unable to read or how many time do i how to tell you the same thing idiot and yes she did call me insult firts while i had not done anything to her.
Yes i do realise the diffrence unlike you who are to dumb to understand anything by the looks of it And i didnt do it as i have already told you try redaing.
Yes i have. And yes i have already given evidence about it as the lore proves itself that what you say is false. I dont need you to do so again cause YOU NEVER DONE IT TO BEGIN WITH.I have repeated mt proof countless time whil you ignore reading the responds you get just because you know im righht and the pretends that you dont see it.
It have always been more than 10 times and its not an insult its the truth while you are the one writing insult about me.
its not and clearly you are the only one who think so
Yes i do read the responds unlike you And i never said it means zero idiot its you that say that. No i didnt post evidence on that i did the opposite as it shows that you did exactly what i said you did. Again im not writing insults its called a fact look up what it mean cause its you that write insults
Do you know, I rather think I -would- know, yes. Given that my career depends upon an excellent command of the English Language, I think I am reasonably safe in stating that I do understand my own native tongue, yes.
Well -you- were the one trying to say that, in fact, lets get your own words here…
Yes, and as I explained, whether a grown adult, or a junior, there are two sexes (though many genders). If a child or grown adult is a male, then they are ‘He’ if a child or grown adult is a female, then they are ‘She’.
Now obviously self determination means that people can identify in different ways, which is fine, but she did tell you, that she was a ‘She’, so you responding with ‘He’ can’t be excused by you saying “You can call a boy a He as well as a Man”
Because she was never a Boy, and is not a Man. You were in the wrong, just admit it.
If you will examine your words, you can see your mistake there. You said you called Her a Man, which she said she was not. If She had been a boy of 12 years old, they would have been a He, just as much as if a man of 30. They corrected you and stated that they were in fact female, and always had been. You kept using the word ‘He’ which is just linguistically incorrect.
I do not need to try reading, I am a profligate reader, and take great pleasure in reading, as such it is relaxation and amusement for me, I do not need to ‘try’ anything. Good grief man, I’m probably one of the few people on these forums who has read ‘War and Peace’ for -fun-! for heavens sake.
Which definition of ‘Several’ is this? The one that is ‘Zero’, or the one that is ‘Ten’ or the one that is more than Ten?
In four languages, thank you very much, and as such, yes I am capable of reading.
Oh! There goes an insult again, you call me an idiot.
You really can’t control yourself can you?
And another one! oooh, I feel so stung…
Incorrect. You have never once provided lore evidence at all, you have only ever said “I think they don’t belong so therefore they don’t belong and lore agrees with me” and -every single time- you have been asked to provide any proof for this, even after the first time, your answer is “You’re too dumb to read, I have given you proof several times now”
I mean it was impressive for you to have supposedly given proof several times, when in fact that would be impossible.
Which is it? ‘Several’ times, so between 3-9? ‘Ten Times’ as you have stated, ‘Over Ten times’ as you have stated, or is it ‘Countless times’ Which would be impressive. I mean really, that would be impressive. You have given proof more times than is physically conceivable by the science of mathematics?
Also how does the number of times vary, some times you say ten, some you say several. You know several means less than ten, right? So which time were you not telling the truth? The time you said ten, or the time you said several?
So you are now saying, that you have always said this more than 10 times.
You do realise that is impossible, don’t you? Time advances. People respond. You may repeat yourself 10 times, to make a total of 11 times, but you cannot instantly start at 11 times of saying something. You have to start at 1. I mean that is simply how it works, and why we have words like ‘iteration’ and ‘repetition’ (Words I am becoming sorely used to having to resort to in this conversation).
You can’t type something and say “I have typed this eleven times!” because whatever you type, you have only typed once, as a statement.
I mean arguably you could simply copy paste the same statement eleven times, and post it as one post, but then you’d still be wrong. You would still only have stated what you were trying to state, Once. You’d just be doing so in a very bizarre manner.
Interesting. So far, you have called me an idiot, dense, dumb, said that I cannot read. Can you point to any post I have made where I have made an insult in return?
Thankfully you were not on the board of assessors of examinations for GCSE’s in 1990. They regarded my standard of English extremely well.
Prove it.
Go on. Prove it.
I’ve just detailed the insults you dish out to anyone who doesn’t agree with you, so come on, you must have proof.
