Whats the point of bgs? if im not premade

title says it all, should i bother with bgs if i play solo queue? if not, why does blizz dont make a system so i can solo queue?

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You are the food, ranked skillers need you to participate in their fun time.
So dont spoil it for them, because they cant play premade vs premade, that would be change and not enough honors per hour… and #nochanges, do you member ? yeah i member !

now seriously : there is nothing you can do now, well maybe find / make your own premade.

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There’s no point in solo queuing BGs unless it’s in AV.
It’s a shame tbh, since BGs are usually fun.

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That depends, do you like getting farmed by a premade? If so then go for it, if not don’t bother.
It’s a real shame though, pug vs pug was so much fun in vanilla, and pvp was probably the thing I was looking forward to the most in classic but it’s been an utter disappointment.

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Because classic is a recreation of the game how it was. The goal is to be as authentic as possible so unless there are some new game breaking exploit or abuse that is much worse now than back then (with for example priests MC) they will not make anything new.

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Pretty much the same, it’s a shame tbh.

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isnt it game breaking when you can´t enjoy a bg without a premade? for sure it is, becouse back then you could, so this no change movement starts to stink.
Blizz should make changes so the old play style can be recreated, else people will just abuse old mechanics to create new unfair play styles thas has nothing to do with how classic was back then.
This is why we have a dev team made of people, else it could be a computer managing the realese of patches cuz they are set on stone.

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Then realm only BGs pls.

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Damn that’s cruel. Do you honestly want that knowing that hundreds of thousand of players would not be able to play bgs at all? And it would do nothing against premades…

its a problem blizz have to fix, they could fixed it back before problems happened but instead, they did nothing. It makes me rage seeing that they cant make anything in alot of subjects when its pretty simple.

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They could also ban solo queueing and only allow 10/15 raids in WSG/AB. It’s an Mmorpg after all.

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that would be better then what we have (nothing)

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TbH I would care as much as the ranking premades are careing now.
In my case it would, small server few premades bigger chance to pug vs pug.

edit: and if I really would find the situation unbearable I coud always transfer the server.

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second that.

If you Just have time to play an hour or so everyday and dont want to nor have time to join the premade griefing there is no way to get proper pvp.

I dont see the harm in having a “solo join” option - why not make the “join” and the “join as group” queue for seperate queues.

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^ This

I work, have kids, however I like to play for rank. Been powering through AV’s, currently rank 10 and sitting comfortably around bracket 10/11.
Obviously I like to push further and enjoy the BG weekends so I can actually take a break from the sometimes mentally draining AV’s. However I’m on a low pop server and premades are barely a thing.
That said, the hard core guys who do manage to form a premade will be so far ahead on the leaderboards it will be impossible to keep up.
BG weekends, especially WSG and AB will be impossible for people who solo queue.

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Go to retail. It has what you want.

It’s called punitive game design. As in to punish you in order to further amplify the meaning of accomplishing something, and also to serve as a motivation to do better to accomplish it.

The quitters will quit, the whiners will whine. Just a bunch of self-entitled nonsense.

^ This makes more sense than what you solo players are asking for. It’s not a solo aRPG like retail, and if they make it into one because you whine about it then watch players leave in droves like they did in retail over the years.

Convenience can be found in retail. Stop crying about it. You tourists are better off not pvping if all you’re gonna do is cry about it. Stick to pve, or go to retail for your coveted participation trophies.

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Stop babbeling, go back to your premade to (farm) leech h/h of PuGs :slight_smile:

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Kinda contradictory when, even queuing solo, its a huge coordinated effort with other players, such happens in an MMORPG.
The only difference is being mixed in which lower ranked/geared players and lack of voice comms which gives advantage to the premaders.

Like I said, premades are almost impossible on my low pop server.

Only requires 9 other people. Whether or not the premade is good depends on what you can make of it, and a druid helps a lot to fc.

But if you’re saying you can’t find such people on your “low pop server”, with these ridiculously sized realms to begin with, then that sounds more like a you-problem than a design problem. You’d probably have as much difficulty getting a premade together on a server with more ppl on it, because it’s a social concept in the end. You know, requires talking to people and getting along with them.

People exxagerate the issue. I had 50% of pug vs pug games just this Tuesday. Maybe it’s because Tuesday, don’t know.

Also, getting into a casualmade isn’t particularly hard.