Whats wrong with Feral druids?

His issue was never about the bleed, i just pointed out then that arms is a beast of a spec and because he had psychological issues with me not agreeing in past with him he gone berserk spewing out insults to me and claiming he is trying to make arms better, while in this thread he said:

He was out of luck ive seen it and replied him accordingly, im pretty sure he forgot what he said because whatever he is saying is random stuff as he said himself in the other thread, he doesn’t play the spec, yet chose to whine about it to attack me :joy:

Now i think you get the point of this… “Conversation”

The only context you have gave so far was that you dont play the spec and you keep replying me because you want to outlast because you have your issues with me.

https://ibb.co/XpKDHC0

For me it looks even greater.
DEEP WOUNDS.

You wanted it removed in the warrior thread and in this thread you said:

Dont play cheap mind games now, we both know they dont work :slight_smile:

Sorry but i quit reading now because this will take long and there is 0 need for me to read it as it contains same old excuses of guilt and shame that try to hide the obvious: Arms is a beast and you just want to argue.

Just a reminder:

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What it does it makes arms damage frontloaded, instead of backloaded. In BFA, you feel like a feral druid in a sense because your bleeds are such a huge portion of your damage, and if you stack mastery they can be up to 70% of your damage.

This changes in SL where your abilities actually hit hard again, e.g. Mortal strike and Execute.

That’s the point, you dont.

First of all I am not the OP and secondly: Okay.

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First of all, nobody stacks mastery, if you stack mastery you doing it wrong.

Once more dont spread misinformation about 70% damage. Barely hits 33% except in AoE zugzug fights like hivemind that top arms have around 40+.

You complained about arms bleed being top dps ability while its 2nd in most cases nowadays with execute being first.

You complained about how BAD arms is on a warrior thread while here in feral druid thread that is struggling you said :

And all of this drama and flaming to a spec you said you dont play…
What does even make sense with you anymore? :upside_down_face:

Stop asking for feedback you dont give a damn about, we’ve been doing this for so many years now… Stop it.

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Whether it was wrong or not doesn’t matter frankly- In short fights having your deep wounds tick for +200k frequently was very useful. There was a whole topic of people using it as an outlier.

I said that I had a problem with bleeds being such a major part of warrior damage. As did majority of the players. That is why they changed the mastery.

The context in that thread, as you yourself stated, was arms mastery sucks: Which is true. It did. Hence, they changed it. Nobody denied arms was strong but it was unfun- hence the change happened, unlike what you claim.

In this thread I brought up the point that many other specs (at the time) had several things that needed fixing and/or adjusting to make them even somewhat enjoyable to play. Since the date was after we were already confirmed to getting arms warrior mastery change, there was no point complaining about that since it was already changing, hence I brought up the problems the spec still has, e.g. No baseline heal or stun (which remain to this date).

As has been said multiple times by myself and others, if you don’t know how to look at the dates of the posts or read contexts maybe you should confine yourself to the game you seem to enjoy so much rather than embarassing yourself over the forums over and again.

Pot calling the kettle black, once more.

Unsurprisingly I didn’t play a spec I did not enjoy- Now that SL changes have happened I look forward to spending time with my warrior alt once more. I already tested it in BG’s and the feel of hitting hard is back, which I love.

So yeah, I got everything I wanted. The game’s good for me (at least for now). Sucks that you lost everything you wanted regarding SP and warrior, but minority always loses anyway.

Its wrong and you lead people to false conclusions.

Its not, execute is. You can scroll all the top arms logs and find it out yourself.

Untrue, because that mastery made arms shine.
Other than that it would be a long forgotten spec like feral we have a problem here and you bring up arms claiming how GOOD it is while you cried about it in the other forum thread and insulted everyone that had a diff opinion.

Whilst you said yourself you dont play arms and you brought up holy/disc/shadow in the arms page while bring arms in the feral thread and stating:

Whining about specs you said you dont play? yeah you got that. Apart from this Deep wounds is still here and buffed while you want it removed.

You guys truly are "J"eniuses, like Donald J Trump.

(he once said “J” stands for genius)

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Im not the one brought up warriors here, redirect your “comments” elsewhere. Im just replying.
Where the heck does DJT comes in a forum?
Why bring political personas in the forums mate?

Genius is not spelled with a J though.

I wasn’t talking to you specifically.

Now, I am talking to you specifically. I’ll keep it short. Why extensively talk about warriors specific issues, unrelated to feral, in a feral thread ?
If at least you used that warrior discussion to shed light on feral issues, why not. Compare feral and warriors in a feral thread. Sure!
But this isn’t the case here.

Don’t need to answer me. Just shut up about warriors here. Start a new thread to complain, argue, etc about warriors.

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How’s feral in the prepatch btw?

Why bring up DJT and politics in the forums for 0 reason?

I always answer, i consider it rude not to.

Rude like this.

More or less ok.
I’m doing about ~3k dps in M+, but that largely depends on tank route, as usual.

One of the most visible issues is what they’ve done to bloodtalons.
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/regarding-blood-talons/188443

@ronda: got it. You’re a troll.

I see. So now it requires pooling energy(or combining it with Tiger’s Fury). Not sure I like that style too.

I tried it in M+ and it’s really a mess.

Originally it has been changed because players were complaining that they’d rather use regrowth when needed instead of having it as a part of the rotation.
But really, in M+, with all the mobs and usual stuff you have to dodge, and now with the mandatory micromanagement or rake in large packs of mobs if you use BT, it’s such a mess that you just don’t have time to think about regrowth. So sometimes, you may throw it on yourself. And very rarely on others… but overall, it’s a real mess.

Also… feral frenzy seem to have become BiS in M+

Rotation… Damage…
That is not the ferals problem, as ive said above the main problem is what resto+balance bring that feral’s lack.

The solution is easy, either you give everything like innervate+aoe silence+treants ETC to ferals, or you remove them from resto + balance.

The most healthy sollution would be all the utility REMOVED making feral able to compete as a valid druid spec and allowing all the other healers to compete with rdruid that dominated all BFA long.

Right now, if you take BT, the issue you’re going to face most often is rotation.

You’re still going to have a “hard time” getting into groups, because basically feral offers no unique utility (it offers tons of utility though… Just nothing no other class/spec can bring).

But even if you get into a group, you’re still going to struggle with a clunky rotation due to how BT works.

Saying that rotation - which is the main aspect of any DPS in that game - cannot be the problem is wrong.