What's wrong with the PvE community?

In after you made an incorrect assumption.

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I have been removed from plenty of 17-18 those past resets on my BM Hunter main even though its close to 2700 score and has 277 itlv for not playing survival . I dont Care i just apply to next group. Non - meta tax was always a thing when pushing for higher keys . Notvthat i push but when i do 1 dungeon a week for gv litery i still try to get extra bit of score. On the other hand on my 260 itlv 1700 score survival Hunter alt i have 0 problem to insta get into 17s : p

Want to have good experience Play meta . Its been like this since legion

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same reason no one invites me to any arena above 500 rating

People are competitive and Blizzard is promoting competition in all their multiplayer activities which creates a toxic bubble of inescapable competition. If you wanna multiplayer in any Blizzard game its best that you create your own fantasy bubble and transmog run.

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With your 240 ilvl and %13 Versatility, no one will.

I just had a run fail at last boss, and of course 2 people starting getting toxic. Seems to be towards a survival huntar. 1 whipe, and the second one, 2 of us died. They said it was the hunters fault. But the healer was ready to give up. The huntar DC’ed after that. I assumed the person just didn’t want to deal with the toxicity.

You have to understand the law of pugs : “You will always try to do the content in the less amount of time and with the less difficulty”

As it was said, you will sometimes deal with weirdos tryharders who gonna kick you for your spec or gear. But I think it’s a minority, for the big part of them they just choose 3krio over 400rio because they can. You have 50dps with high rio tagging in +15 keys.
Nothing weird or tryharding in this, just the “law” applied.

I would say it’s by far the most groups that are like this. Atleast some of the manchildren, who don’t have the patience, are toxic etc

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have you ever tried savage raids in FFXIV? I also seen a rogue soloing patchwerk in WotLK that doesnt mean anything though… for the 99.9% of players they are super hard. Dont judge from videos you see others playing :stuck_out_tongue:

So i just tried to use my key. One dps wasn’t happy with the first pull out tank made, which made the tank leave. People like that should be punished. Not allowed to do a mythic for a week. Now my key gets lowered, because of 2 children. No wonder people quit this game, when they have to deal with people like this. And stop with the BS that people should just join a guild. I think most guilds are dead, or close to it

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Sounds like typical low key drama? What’s your key+? Maybe I can tank or heal it for you.

You were the keyholder.
You decided who to invite and who not.
Maybe that 255/2100 BM or Feral would have been a better fit, but you and you alone dediced objectively that you absolutely want the 278/3600 DPS.
Your decision to invite these two children wasted the time of four other people (excluding yourself). The pricetag for your very own misjudgment of the people that you decided to play with is merely that your key gets depleted.

What do I want to tell you?
Granted, there is no real way to protect yourself from such misjudgments, that’s why you just have to accept that they will happen.
Building a working party isn’t as easy as clicking invite on the guys with the highest rating. So just accept that you are prone to catastrophic misjudgments or just don’t build partys.

Just as an example: When there’s a keep-your-distance-circle around every player I tend to evade to the right. If the other players have the same notions we are all runing in the same direction and it becomes stressful. Then on the pull everyone does the smart thing and drumroll evades to the left. And that’s then the next stressful situation and the group starts getting bad even though no one is bad individually.
Some groups work, some don’t.

well was it his fault ? if yes then maybe he shouldnt fail in first place.

you invited him there ergo it was on you

was tanks pull correct or not ? if yes then he had all right to poitn it out

i mean - i just experienced first boss in nw healing to full because 3k tank aparently doesnt know how sanguine works but still he pulled 3 pcks with boss. . but because dmgwas good enough to just ignore it and kil lit nobody left.

i bet you if other elements in your group would be ok nobody would leave too - but my guess is dps was low too so 1 of dps - again asumption - the best one decided that its not worth for him to waste his time there

You are aware you can post youtube links without trust levels? :slight_smile:

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Like this?
Is new tho.

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That is a load of BS, and you must live in your own world. I don’t go for the onces with the highest rating or Ilvl. How the heck am i ment to know, that one is going to complain over a pull not being big enough, and the other one leaves over it. You clearly aren’t to bright. Something tells me you are one of those type of people.

It wasn’t my key, and this about who invited them, is a load of BS. You people clearly aren’t to bringt. You can’t know how they will react. I have a feeling you are also one of those people

Dps was fine. We didn’t struggle to kill the groups. Tank pulled 2 instead of 3. Others also called the dps that wasn’t happy about it, out

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well I didnt know :stuck_out_tongue: thanks for the info

Wrong… depending on secondary stats almost half gear from tomestones were better than even pentameld crafted gear

This is how a wow players, narrow minded would see it. There is housing, beast tribes, Casino, card game, Fashion, Wondrous tails, Deep Dungeon, old Dungeons and raids for glamour (transmog) and probably a bit more I forget…
the difference is that these are not “forced” yet people love to do them and spend time here!

Personal opinion! Story is awesome and loot system also is awesome cause it has no RNG

Also for the rest again, mostly your opinion as a wow trained player… majority of gamers vastly disagree with you as you can see in the picture below… I know many wow players that simple cannot play other games… some rl friends among them. They live in their small blizzard world…

https://i.imgur.com/cx4b4B0.png

Oh God, those ideas are awful.

“Keys don’t deplete”. Great we’re going to have people getting to a key level that is clearly a bit beyond their reach getting 4 people in to carry them because “we’ll get there eventually”. There will be no respect for others time.
People don’t leave a 10 hour long key because it has less rewards than a 20 minute key. They leave a 10 hour long key because its a crap place to be, watching people run sideways into walls like lobotimised zombies.

Linear dungeons. No, what the hell? Sure tweak them so theres a safer route for people that can’t walk in a straight line without butt pulling. But part of the replayability of these dungeons is that even now people are optimising. Thats hard to do when the path from A to B is set in stone.

Interupts. He basically crapped on his own take. The telegraphing part I agree with but the rest was just drivel, he even knew it.

Just because someone has a platform, it doesn’t mean their ideas are good.

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