The Horde had nothing in classic. It needed Cataclysm changes to fix it. You know when the alliance literally controlled all of Azeroth.
You keep on getting funnier with your statements every day Erevien.
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Just saying the way it is. Just because the rest of the Horde is fine with eating dung every week doesnât mean I will conform.
No one cares if you will conform to it 
âI will fight them on the beaches.â
Different universe Erevien, nice Churchill quote
The Alliance barely controlled more of Azeroth than the Horde did. Difference is they had numbers to back it up and the Horde did not.
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They should have made the Warcraft 2 Horde playable from the start. The Thrall reboot was bad.
Buddy, Warcraft 2 is right there in the Launcher, playable.
Dont forger to play the mission where they attack the blood elves 
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This thread is great evidence as to why stories and fantasy worlds should never be a game of tallies or 'My Dad is better than your Dad and hereâs whyâŚ"
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You really are incapable of saying anything without shifting the goalpost.
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my guy I went to 8 years of Horde slander and I had the little hope Blizzard might switch their focus eventually from elves and humans all the time and the product is still bad so I decided to pick a fight and make them notice me so the Horde can eventually cede a victory that is worthy in the name of it.
itâs a bit of a weird flex to show to you already for 8 years have a hard time to understand lore and accept reality. That you do not like something for 8 years and can still not accept that, that is just sad Erevien, but has nothing to do with Blizzard being unfavorable to the Horde, whilst you ignore whole storylines and want them to return to the state the Horde was in 20-30 years ago, and by then the story was already written that the Horde would break loose from warmongering and suffering due to it.
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even without evil leaders they kept dying. And I am tired of it. I will protect Gallywix with all my might and hope the alliance finally suffers the same fate the horde went through in bfa.
I too hope the Alliance will lose a war and still gain new territory.
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Baine is a small price to pay to claim around 7 zones, after all!
You are fine with losing 90% of your leaders?
The Horde hasnât even lost 10% of its leaders. The Alliance have lost more leaders.
Horde losses since vanilla:
Kaelâthas
Cairne
Volâjin
Saurfang
Dranosh
Zaela
Nazgrim
Garrosh
Gallywix
Sylvanas
Nathanos
Rastakhan
Krenna
Malkorok
Bovan
Lathos
AU Durotan
Broxigar
Ishi
Orkus
Areiel
Lyana
Your dishonesty never ceases to amaze, but I shall rise to the bait.
He was never Horde.
Fair,
Fair, but heâs becoming the Loa of Gods so he isnât entirely dead.
Fair.
Fair.
Betrayed the Horde in favour of Garroshâs True Horde.
Betrayed the Horde in favour of Garroshâs True Horde. Also undead.
Betrayed the Horde by casting everything it stood for against the wind in favour of Orcish supremacy.
Betrayed the Horde in favour of Sylvanas. Him being in charge of the Bilgewater Cartel was bad writing anyway.
Betrayed the Horde. Also not dead.
Betrayed the Horde.
His death is what led to the Zandalari allying with the Horde, so he was never Horde.
Killed by her sister.
Betrayed the Horde in favour of Garroshâs True Horde.
Fair.
Was part of the neutral Dragonscale Expedition.
Was never part of the Horde.
At this point youâre just taking the piss, considering Broxigarâs story.
Killed through Garroshâs actions. Would have joined the True Horde and thus betray the Horde.
This is below even you.
Fair.
Betrayed the Horde in favour of Sylvanas.
This is genuinely your most ridiculous take yet, Erevien. Hardly any of these were ever Horde leaders, some werenât ever even part of the Horde, and most never appeared outside of a single zone or questline. And it could be oh so easily countered by a list of deceased Alliance characters thrice as long with the straws youâre grasping at.
This is below even you, my friend.
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