When will the alliance finally lose?

ok, then the same work for daza`alor since it was the staging ground for the horde aginst kul tiras and the alliance in the 4th war (Table Missions), also including an horde embasy and stationed horde troops at the port.
So, its the same agrument, the zandalari wernet completly neutarl and supoported with an port and dazaàlor an base of operation for threi aggersion (same agumnet horde use arguing with tehramor which was base of operation for the alliance)

Theramore was the main port of the alliance in Kalimdor so Jaina can’t play innoccent since it was her forces that made Taurajo possible.

The Zandalari only worked with the Horde because the Alliance kidnapped its heir and the king’s chief advisor merely because they feared they would work together.

Big difference.

Yes? That’s what I said. It’s genuinely amazing how you’re so argumentative you have to start one over someone agreeing with you. That said, Taurajo was a legitimate military target no matter which way you try to spin it.

Another example of Blizzard villainbatting a Alliance leader!

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Baine is a traitor his opinion is irrelevant.

Literally, and? I never mentioned Baine at all, his opinion is irrelevant, but it doesn’t change the fact that Taurajo was a legitimate military target.

1: It trained Horde warriors.
2: It fed the Horde’s armies in Southern Barrens.
3: It was the final stronghold before Mulgore.

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It wasn’t. They deliberatley waited until all warriors were gone and then led the survivors to their deaths by leading them to Quilboar territory. Who was left at that point was exiled by Baine which remains the reason the Horde fandom hates him.

no, it was because both were arrests the Zandlari were still since mop at war with Horde and Alliance (remember all the zanadalari in Pandaria and island of thunder, also the vol`jin book)
Its was even justifyable becase that and blizzard forgett that the horde was also at war with them, just wo, whops, whatever, make them allies.

and when something happend “mimimi, Bain dided, get hurt, alliance bias, another addion of my list of horde charkter loss” :clown_face:

And we had that thmena slo multiple times dicussed, it was a legit target, it was even confiremd by a member of the horde.
Second, its a legit tatcit to atatck when resistence it at lowes, to reduce onw, and enemy casultys.
Third, teh alliance cound know taht teh quilboar wree also wairitng, the allaince led a corridor for teh suvivors, but do the false information by magatha grimtotem they dint know tehy wer un into them, but on one hand, you cant the allaince for it, when taure settle deep in hostile terretory with quilboar, hapy and centaures nearby, if the allaince dintz attack, ione of thosue woud have- woud taht also be the allaince fault?

It was. Just its physical location alone made it a legitimate target.

It had plenty of braves left, and warrior trainees.

This did not happen.

Expelled from Thunder Bluff, not exiled. They would have left regardless to fight the Alliance.

No, not at all. The Alliance caught wind that Talanji and Zul were going to negotiate with the Horde due to the Zanchuli Council’s apparent uninterest in dealing with the rising domestic threats within Zuldazar itself.

Cata / MoP was not a factor in it.

Baine is to date the only leader who ever told his people they are in the wrong for wanting to fight the other side. that is the stain of his legacy.

Slight clarification.

The Zandalari in Isle of Thunder, was also publically admonished by the peoples of Zandalar. They were elements that King Rastakhan pushed away because of his disbelief to Zul’s claims of the Cataclysm not threatening Zuldazar.

People were already flocking to Zul due to his position as a Prophet with very real proof. Many more flocked to him when the Cataclysm did happen. It was then that Rastakhan permitted Zul and his followers to leave, which led to various Zulian initiatives such as reclaiming and empowering ‘weak’ trollish territories starting with Zul’aman and Zul’gurub.

In Thunder Isle, the case was the same according to an ancient pact between the Zandalari and the Thunder King. I do not recall how Zul got back to Zandalar however, but his departure was never considered accepted nor exemplary. In fact, there is dialogue of Zandalari in the dock areas of them publically and unashamedly cursing Zul and his followers for leaving Zandalar when it was weakened by cata.

They had nothing to do with the BFA plot. That’s new.

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Lol what even is this.

And Bane is completely and utterly unrelated to everything I said, Erevien. Get a grip for once.

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Baine is the prime apologist for shady alliance actions.

And he’s completely unrelated. I never mentioned Baine, I never referenced Baine, I have only spoken of the village of Taurajo itself.

Do you have a single argument as to why it would not be a legitimate military target that isn’t just “Baine bad”? Of course not.

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Baine is all the problems the Horde has. If he goes away we are much better off. Also Theramore was a legitemate target too wanna know what Baine did after the bomb dropped? Ran into the swamp and started to cry.

Sry but you have been here long enough to know he doesn’t have arguments, just random 1 liners he likes to use when he gets cornered. Dude can’t even decide what his favorite race is.

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Understandable when there is inquisition of alliance people coming in and throwing multiple arguments in and teaming up, its hard that point to make any sensible arguments when put on pressure that much. But i think people already know this and they abuse the fact

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Well you could argue even that trainee’s are never an military target either. But that also depends on a POV. The whole Taurajo situation is an mess when there is 2 sides of the story written by different people like it feels like there isnt really cut and trough answer to it

And add to that which is why Baine is put up he was the one who said on horde side that it was an military target. Baine’s problem is that he really isnt great in military situations, he is lot more peacetime leader than that

It’s not written by different people though, to understand the Taurajo story you need to have done with Horde and Alliance. Taurajo was meant to be just a capture operation but we had rouge agents in the Alliance that started pillaging and killing, the Commander in charge of the op asked us (the PC) to go to Taurajo and deal with rouge agents, after which he wanted to meet with the Horde leader in charge of the Barrens front and offer recompense. And that’s the Alliance side of the story. Now for the Horde side. The Horde do not know that it was rouge agents and believe that the Alliance captain ordered the pillaging of Taurajo, they hear that the Alliance captain will be out patrolling (in actuallity this is where the story continues, because the captain is not on patrol but is heading to the Horde stronghold for negotiations) and they ambush and kill him. The questline is mean to be played by both sides for full context.

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