Because he pretends to have a disability in order to convince you to give him money.
But he is an advocate for the Horde and Alliance alike!
Against the Alliance, for they built towers behind his farm.
Against the Horde, for they burnt that same farm down.
In a way, he supports both. What a tragic character.
That would make him an advocate against both not for both.
What?!
What a preposterous statement, you can only love one and hate the other!
You can hate both, just look at OP.
H-ā¦
By jove, you got me there.
Edit: Wait, you got me until he changes his mind for the first five minutes. Or five seconds, depending on the mood heās in.
I mean I accidentally found one of his treads on the US forums and boy did he do a 180 on his Thrall take.
Anyway any particular lore/story you want to discuss?
Actually, yes!
Not really fitting for this thread, but it was explored - somewhat - in another concerning the Kirin Tor and what possible directions they could take to be more of an active force. Itās best to be kept there though.
I suppose to keep it vaguely (strongly on context), I am intrigued in where they want to take the faction animosity - if they will pick that up again. Despite the Earthen thinking their aggro on each other is childish, it being picked up for potential side-plot would be personally curious to explore.
Honestly, iād love some aggression stories again. I know iām probably asking for something iāll regret later down the line, however.
I wouldnāt want it to take main stage again though. Ye gods anything but that again.
Honestly I do not want another faction war. I actually want the factions to be dissolved completely. And I know I lost you with this one but hear me out, the factions have taken away agency from the individual races, we have kept hearing this over and over again when we have a faction war āOh itās human story, we gnomes are just there for the rideā or āOh this is a blood elf story, we tauren are just ther for the rideā. With the factions gone I would put the world in state of uneasy alliances between all the races and every now and again a new conflict arises, so lets say expansion 16 Wrath of the Burning Cataclysm we have NE vs Undead, obv the worgen would join in with the NE and BE would join in with the Undead, we have a war with 4 races, the rest are kinda doing theirr own thing, then expansion 16 we get something else like idk Orcs vs Humans, Troll civil war or Trolls trying to rebuild their empire and try to retake their lands from the elves. These are stories I would like to see, not Red vs Blue or Huge cosmic bad wants to take over and/or destroy the universe. Race (and class/spec) stories are the untapped mine Blizzard have been looking for all this time.
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Oh!
Individualistic conflicts? Now that would be an even better cup of tea. Extending on your point, it would be a very nice way of exploring the identity - and expanding on it at the same time. Extensively, in my opinion it would also give reasonable things for all races to be involved in.
I donāt feel like they āneedā to remove the factions to make this work. But if it needs to, I am all in for forsaking the factions for individual conflicts instead.
This was āsomewhatā explored in some faction conflicts we know now but never has it been extended on. Justā¦ mentioned and quickly forgotten about when reasoning is just as - if not more - important to a story plot than the actions taking place in the plot itself.
For example, one of the reasons Garrosh decided to take war actions (before he was written into becoming a tyrannical backend) was the legitimacy of resources. I am unsure of the source (may have been the book? Iāll take a look) was because Orgrimmar was starving, poor and dwindling. Itās only right for the one in charge to take action. It just seemed to him that war was the option to do so.
But after that tidbit, it kind ofā¦ quickly fizzled out. It turned from reasoning to destroying the Alliance, to destroying EK, to destroying the world.
Depends on how far we get into this new cross faction thing by the time we get there (also if we get there at all). Hypothetically speaking in a world without factions each race would be able to visit the any capital, for example a tauren going to SW. Now when a conflict arises between idk Dwarves and Tauren, Dwarf players would no longer be able to visit Thunderbluff and Taurnes could no longer visit IF. Also I feel like they will need to dissolve factions if in order to make a proper civil war story.
Good point. It is a little jarring when different settings do just this thing and it feels strange that you can visit their main area / areas of influence unharmed.
Slight off-beat example: It always rubbed me off the wrong vibe that after the main story conclusion of Diablo 4, you could still visit the main hub where one of the same factions you stood against holds power there. Felt like mechanics > story beats.
I guess I understand the reasoning, but perhaps, as you point out in time, things will be different and visiting other hubs would actually improve their presence than actually alienate them. Thunderbluff becoming popular due to focus conflicts shifting to Orgrimmar has potential.
As we know the factions now, yeah. Itās difficult, and dissolving the factions is probably the easiest step to go with.
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What conflict are you most interested in seeing? For me it would bee Dark Iron vs Bronzebeards vs Wild hammer in a succession dispute, because my god we really are in need of some badass dwarf stories because the race has just degraded into āsilly drunken menā and bad accents.
Too many potential tethers left behind!
In the same vein with a shadowy continuation of the Dwarven Clans, I would love them to pick up the animosity of the Grimtotem and the Tauren again. I always loved Magatha being the clever old crone that is feared by all Tauren to the point where she is considered some kind of skincrawler cryptid at times.
But for greater interests, as I am a Troll and Elf player, something concerning the Forest Trolls and EK Elves (Blood, High, Void etc.) always made me curious. Mostly because they both have the rare tidbit of legitimate reasoning behind their conflict (Good old land claims). A conflict around this could rise from the legacy of Zulājin being picked up by the Amani, or if they feel like pushing the table over? the Revantusk instead.
There doesnāt really need to be an āendā to these conflicts either. It could just as easily end up with a tussle on both sides with the resolution being that one side just has to back down afterwards.
As much as I hate agreeing with Erevien, I think he is right that Grimtotem and Amani( or pretty much all Troll tribes) should become at least customization options and get introduced via something similar to the Eredar quest wwe Alliance got.
If MoP and BfA though us something is that these kinds of conflicts should never have an outright winner.
If only. 
I am happy with both trollish options, but iād love the forest/snow troll skins.
ā¦Yeah.
But thatās the other good thing about these kinds of individualistic conflicts. It actually makes sense that there is no outright winner, as the motivations behind them often consider that total decimation just isnāt worth time and investment. Resource conflicts want the āthingā, land conflicts want ālandā etcetera.
An idea like this with your War between the three Dwarven Clans is the Wildhammers might want to supplant the Dark Iron, but only at the most succeed in routing their factories that have expanded too far into their lands. So destroying their industry is better thanā¦ wellā¦ not really worth the cost hunting them down.
Not to mention the delicious politics and the total headache Moira would go through trying to manage it all.
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I seareched a bit on the german forum and Kurst seems to be a hyper aggressive troll. So not gonna take anything serious from him from now on.
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You sure you didnāt accidentally search yourself, Erevien?
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Id really wanna see the dwarven clans start pickering again also as an forsaken loyalist would be nice to see inner conflict between sylvanas loyalists and old school forsaken against this new wave
Well he is either troll or just focusing all too much to this. I havenāt seen from him any sensible thing for long time, its always trying to start somekind of conflict. And when people keep saying Erevien is bad while sametime ignoring all the stuff kurst has tried to start but i quess its all about what colours you wear in here