I was curious what the Blizzard survival game would have been like but alas, they cancelled it.
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Yeah that i would have tried, but turning wow into a game where i loose my gear and gold after dying to pvp would make me insta quit wow. Or just stay in a safe hub and never go out in the world.
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Op said allot of thingsā¦ I am sorry but i derailed this thread hardā¦ OP as far as I can read wanted wow too double down on being even more shadowlands than shadowlands wasā¦ 
Shadowlands pretty much did its wow attempt at being a Dark souls survival gameā¦
Look how well that jammed with people
I absolutely hated the Maw more than any other zone in WoWās history.
So now weāre in a thread where āhorrific visionsā and āshadowlandsā was mentioned.
Okay, Iām going to bed.
Same I just wouldnāt want to play.
I tried doing the whole lets be super safe and not go anywhere and in Hardcore and itās just dull. Not being able to play the game is dull.
So Iām in the same boat. I would just go and pick a different MMO that did offer that experience and probably one with player housing to boot because if Iām giving up
WoW I really want to gain something good out of it.
No mounting in the mawā¦ If you died twice you would loose all your stygiaā¦
You had thorghast where if you died 4 times. You would have too start from the first floor all over againā¦
WoW just has too much fomo in it as it is for people too enjoy this kind of gameplayā¦
Nobody has time for thisā¦ When if you donāt get your soul ashes and X y Z fast enough. You wont get invited or included into your M+
Nobody has time to play a survival horror game in wow. With all the fomo that is currently in it.
Not sure i would play any other mmo if i quit wow. Maybe some gw2, i did enjoy playing that but prefered playing it alone and just doing the map completions and story. Never really tried any of the dungeon stuff (cant remember what they were called in gw2).
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Fractals :3 Also wasnāt you an MVP? or have I got you mixed up with someone else? I swear you used too be green?
Uāre thinking of ananda
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Sorry my bad x_x I could swear you was a green
Nope, the last MVP they ever promoted was Punyelf i think and that was before i started using the forums.
I really wanted to like FF but I didnāt take to it and GW Iāve never got past level 10 so itās a big challenge. Iām not sure Iād want to go back to RIFT or SWTOR. I donāt even know if Aion is still going. I never took to Wildstar though I beta tested it for both launch and before it went free to play.
Iām not sure Iād find something that would properly fill the World of Warcraft hole. More likely Iād end up playing through BG3 some more, carry on with Palworld, Enshrouded, Overwatch etc.
Time for me too actually go to bed then x_x
There were some after me but mostly CS based or other languages. Now there are no CS MVPS we are all just GD MVPs.
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Yeah id probably just play other games that arent in the MMO genre. Would have time to actually play all those games iāve bought and never started on 
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You and me both!!!
Ofc I could always look through the huge collection of games Iāve built up on Epic because I have grabbed their freebies on most rotations. I have no idea what is in there.
If WoW stops or when I stop playing WoW, nothing will replace that.
Outside of WoW I donāt game much anymore tbh. For the last several years Iāve mainly liked games such as the Life Is Strange series.
The only thing Iāve played RPG wise were Hogwarts Legacy and Baldurās Gate 3. I didnāt finish Baldurās Gate; I seriously disliked the combat gameplay, the camera, the controls.
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Theyāre not measurements per se. Itās just a design approach for how innovative versus conservative an ongoing product development ought to be to please an existing audienceās desire for both familiar and new at the same time. So how much of each? 80/20 is a rule of thumb.
What do I personally favor? I donāt know? I think Iām indifferent in general. Maybe with WoW I lean more toward innovation because Iām getting a bit bored of it? But other games, like Hades II, Iām happy to see lean into the familiar, but thatās perhaps because I really enjoyed the first game. Civilization VII was recently announced. I enjoyed the previous installments, all of them, and theyāve varied a lot in terms of how innovative theyāve been.
So itās hard to say.
I started on that today, struggeling a bit with getting used to the movement and controls and combat. Iāll try some more tomorrow, have heard so much good about that game.
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Mmmh. Yeah I get that.
For WoW Iām the opposite of you; I lean towards not too much change because I like what WoW is and how it plays.
With other games, yes I agree, it depends on the game and how much Iāve enjoyed it.
With Diablo itās another case entirely for me personally. I will never, ever, ever play another Diablo ever again (or any clone, for that matter). Not because I didnāt like the last Diablo game I played - which would be Diablo 2. But because I played it too much. I did a sickening amount of playing that game and I just donāt want to ever even be tempted to go back to that; I have too many other things Iām interested in. So I just refuse to play games like that.