Where does Shadowlands PVP rank?

Personal pvp ranking:

  1. Cataclysm
  2. Wotlk
  3. Mop
  4. Shadowlandss = Mop)
  5. Legion
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    Please never again:
  6. Wod
  7. BFA

Dk is literally in worst spot right now

I would rank shadowlands pvp at the very bottom…both seasons equaly.

There wasnt a single season that was this stupid like whole shadowlands.

I still dont understand why in mop stampede, frost bomb, taste for blood oneshots were scabdalous and fixed asap… and now every second class has an oneshot and nobody seems to give a :poop: …
I would rather have corruption season all over again over this turd fiesta.

Shadowlands is literally just bfa s4 nothing has changed.

Its the same boring specs that have been been dominating for years while the rest stay bad for the entire expansion.

Maledict and cringe borrowed power still exist.

Mostly yes, its the same clown fiesta.

i mean you cant be more wrong can you?
literally every single dps and healing spec is glad viable?
in bfa s4 destro hpala and mw were dominating and right now they are viable but not dominating
Also warrior who is dominating all SL was pretty bad in bfa.

SL has its problems but class balance is definitely not one of the biggest problems of Shadowlands.

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Class balance isn’t an issue? Lol ok

Legion was a perect example where there was dominating specs but every spec was viable and it was alot smoother to push rating instead of fearing about getting 1 shotted and waiting nearly a year for class tuning

how can class balance be an issue if that is the case?
there are always specs that outshine others but in general everything is viable which i dont think was ever the case before?
so why is class balance an issue right now?

Most specs are currently playable but the meta is so strong that the odds are already against you. Add high gear differences between challenger and duellist and then you’ve got a big problem.

This game has never been so dead in my opinion. 11 days left for me.

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One good thing about the shadowlands arenas is that games are decided that fast such that ooming only plays a significant role at the top end.

This in my experience is the only thing that has improved. Pvp and the game in general in my eyes is terrible.

It’s miles ahead of Legion and Bfa, but miles behind WoD and MoP.

Mop the best gearing system and fun, tons of alts.

The worst BFA and Shadowlands, Classic felt even better, at least could count cooldowns, now it’s zillion of conduits and what not. Random fiesta.

How do you explain Legion had less PvP participation than SL?

Covid, PVE players played a lot of PVP, boosting.Boosting accepting more players as old school players leaving and new generation more stick around, who don’t know better then, swiping. Noobsters have a chance to reach 1400 rating, just cheesing and RNG.

People love this covid excuse. People won’t play more just because of covid, they might play more during lockdown, outside of lockdowns we still had higher participation.
PvE players played S1 in the start, yes. That’s not the case now. And Legion could be considered a singleplayer game compared to the participation in the start of SL S1.
Boosting was always a thing but the most important: You need people playing first, otherwise there is nobody to boost.

Covid isn’t excuse, whole gaming industry gained a lot of players and income.
A lot of players never tried wow, but definitely have heard about it, but never had time for it. Some got suck into wow and stayed.
I got few mates who are still on furlough and playing wow, cos just got time for it.
New generation accepting more pay 2 win services, cos they just don’t know better, they grew up with that mentally.

Of course it makes sense more people are playing due to the lockdowns but my point was that SL PvP participation is higher compared to Legion outside of the lockdowns and after PvP gear mattered for PvE. On top of that it’s summer + vacation time.

Idk about that. My younger brother and his mates all tried out WoW but they quit. They do not accept p2w at all but they didn’t quit WoW because of that. They found the game too slow.

Deathknight

It was clearly not ā€œpretty badā€.