You were never been given “The Vulpera didn’t know about the war”. The lack of something does not mean the existence of another.
its also illogical that as a race your bound to your faction and have no free will to switch faction without your race being changed. so there isnt really free will for our chars as we cannot decide for or own cause of game play technicality’s that blizz easily can solve but doesn’t so in the end isnt blizz not the bad guys forcing that story upon us without use to choice ourself?
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You were never been given “The Vulpera didn’t know about the war”. The lack of something does not mean the existence of another.
‘‘The evidence of absence does not prove the absence of evidence’’ You doing a Boondocks on me? xD
the story never wrote the vulpera knowing dude… Like i dont know what else to tell you. but the writers of this own story wrote it this way intended.
You cant go ‘‘BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT THEY DIDN’T WRITEN!!?’’ like we have to stick to the lore we given…
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its also illogical that as a race your bound to your faction and have no free will to switch faction without your race being changed. so there isnt really free will for our chars as we cannot decide for or own cause of game play technicality’s that blizz easily can solve but doesn’t so in the end isnt blizz not the bad guys forcing that story upon us without use to choice ourself?
I am sorry do you even know what we are talking about?
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the story never wrote the vulpera knowing dude… Like i dont know what else to tell you. but the writers of this own story wrote it this way intended.
Oh ffs… You know what? It was never written specifically in the story that the Vulpera are sentient creatures, so again not a warcrime. I win.
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Oh ffs… You know what? It was never written specifically in the story that the Vulpera are sentient creatures, so again not a warcrime. I win.
No but your like… making lore out of assumptions and things that werent written and stated. Cause you think they make sense too you…
Your like a schrodingers cat when it comes to lore… I am just saying we should stick to what lore we have got as intended.
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Your like a schrodingers cat when it comes to lore… I am just saying we should stick to what lore we have got as intended.
So why then are you bringing up the Vulperas state of knowing about the war as proof of inocense , when it is neither confirmed or denied?
Because last time I did it… Witch aint that very long ago… I wanted to make a new RP character on the US servers… I did the entire Vulpera and vol’dun campaign. And it is fresh on my memory…
But for the sake of this conflict and the entire argument this has brought about ive offered to do it all over again. Just too make sure… just for you.
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I am sorry do you even know what we are talking about?
yes in your opinion the vulpera are part of the warcrimes the horde did as they are sentient and still joined the horde even that they could know this information. and your trying to apply all sort of real logic to the situation which i shall quote sylvanas : " this world is a prison…" ( im just very frustrated that the races that i want to play dont have a choice in whats happening and thus cant see them to get blame are that the same as blamming a wall for falling on you. real world logic to the current story has no sence)
jesus christ almighty do I regret this or what? I thought you couldn’t get worse of a faction fanatic than Erevien. But holy molly do the the alliance have their fair share too.
Like is it so hard for you guys to accept your faction and every action and couse they took where always morally good?
You always on him but god damn does the apple not fall far from the tree or what? Like this level of denial of -ever- committing any wrong doing is insane.
To be honest. The Faction thing is getting dull and predictable. There’s really no more logic about keeping the players tied to a faction for a feud the nobody really cares for anymore.
They should either remove the Faction Race restriction or have racial factions for both Horde and Alliance.
I feel like the world war between the horde and the alliance deserves a rematch… Look at these guys?
Just for once if there ever was a faction conflict… let the Alliance be the villains for once… Although they might all melt and explode if that ever happen.
im not agaisnt that. even better remove the race retraction have all horde friendly chars like thrall switch side and just make the horde a pure evil faction and alliance the good guys. that makes it much easier for game play and story telling. as we know when lore gets to deep it either get executed poorly or moved out of sight in a book.
like belugar would say K,I.S. Keep It Simple.
this way the war would also be more sensible as 1 side is fighting for wolrd dominance and the other for world peace. and race shouldnt be bound to a faction but to your own ideals.
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yes in your opinion the vulpera are part of the warcrimes the horde did as they are sentient and still joined the horde even that they could know this information
Not at all. I am trying to argue that even though it is not specifically mentioned in a quest text, that the Vulpera knew that there was a war between Horde and Alliance.
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Like is it so hard for you guys to accept your faction and every action and couse they took where always morally good?
Yes when you cannot prove otherwise.
And what does “faction fanatic” have to do with arguing about what is head cannon and whats not?
Also…
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But you really aint giving the Orcs and the Nightborne enough credit here…
When faced against a cosmic super power that literally threatens you to join them or die? What do you do?
Do you stand and fight and just perish? Or do you tag along and stay so you can fight another day? Thats what both of these races did faced with the overwhelming power of the legion as they both did at the time…
This is actual head cannon that contradicts well established facts Mr. I-Only-go-with-what-was-presented-to-me-in-text.
And I am still waiting for the IRL corelation to the “demon blood” thing that you claimed to have addressed but never did and just derailed.
I will say one thing about the Vulpera, their dodging skill are sure up there.
-.- You know I am gonna actually do this and proove you very likely wrong right?
Like id be careful talking this much hot if i where you
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-.- You know I am gonna actually do this and proove you very likely wrong right?
I have been waiting since yesterday for you to do so, so far very disappointed.
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Like id be careful talking this much hot
if i where you
I’m the one talking poopoo. Also not the one trying to deflect 1000 times.
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I have been waiting since yesterday for you to do so, so far very disappointed.
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’m the one talking poopoo. Also not the one trying to deflect 1000 times.
Your the one making lore out of lore that was never written and I am the one confirming it for you wether it happend or not… you should be grateful. I am the one working for you here… -.-
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Your the one making lore out of lore that was never written
Ahem… May I present my evidence your Honor.
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But you really aint giving the Orcs and the Nightborne enough credit here…
When faced against a cosmic super power that literally threatens you to join them or die? What do you do?
Do you stand and fight and just perish? Or do you tag along and stay so you can fight another day? Thats what both of these races did faced with the overwhelming power of the legion as they both did at the time…
What is this? What great point do you think this proves?
Quote 1
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But you really aint giving the Orcs and the Nightborne enough credit here…
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When faced against a cosmic super power that literally threatens you to join them or die?
Was it not your claim here that the Orcs same as the Nightborne (as seen in quote 1) were threatened to join the Legion (as seen in quote 2)?