Tbf I really don’t think diplomacy would have worked by then. I mean Countless settlements were torched along side Stormwind (which goes without saying is a huge deal).
Your the one cllaiming lore that happens in your head is cannon… Take your pick.
At least I stick to the lore thats written and actually cannon.
They should have accepted their responsibility and returned to Draenor, the world they themselves destroyed.
Dodge, deflect, run. dodge, deflect… yawn.
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True.
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1.Humans were seeing orcs as irredeemble monsters serving demons, what diplomacy? what kind of outcome he would’ve achieved by talking? “summer camps” as amonet says aren’t a good outcome, orgrimm didn’t want his people to be enslaved.
2.No, gul’dan’s goal was serving legion, orgrimm executed his demon worshippers and wanted to conquer some land for his people to live in. Maybe it was wrong choice (he didn’t have much time to think anyway), but his goal certainly wasn’t serving demons or other objectively evil crap
To starve them to death, sure.
Lmao
literally you xD At least I stick to the lore thats written and cannon. You have too grasp for unwritten lore to make your side make sense. Outside of whats blizzards written.
‘‘I have too make up my own lore too justify the few warcrimes the alliance have made. cause my fragile ego can’t handle not once being the bad guy’’
Like when the Legion threatened the orcs into serving them instead of manipulating them into giving up their free will of their own? Oh wait… thats not what happened at all.
Just stop… its over.
You are not the one to decide if its over.
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It’s pathetic though… the Alliance are usually the good guys… but the leanghts you guys go trough to defend just that once or twice time that they aren’t? The denial is so surreal.
Precisely they put them in the fields, instead of exterminating them, because Therenas thought they could redeem themselves.
Likewise, what happened in their world was their fault, therefore the orcs’ problem. Nothing justifies a genocide and invasion in the realms of the races of Azeroth.
They deserve it. Anyway, the Draenei survived on Draenor and many still live there. The orcs must have tried.
anyway… I have too sleep this night… cant stay here and argue alliance denial all night again.
have fun raging over not always being the good guys,
I am not defending anything, I am questioning your claim that you are taking in the lore that is presented when clearly you are claiming events that you fabricated in your head, and to be specific and give you less room to dodge or deflect I am talking about you claiming that Orcs got thretened by the Legion to join.
orgrimm being a desperate leader wanted for his people better future, not enslavement
No it was a fault of legion, draenor either way would’ve become a fel world, the moment draenei landed on draenor they marked this world as target for legion
And people say i have “wrong morals” lmao
There was Nagrand and that one Mag’har tribe in Hellfire.
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okey no -.- unlike you I have always stayed with the written lore and the context we have been given… your the one who made a whole point about making lore out of all unwritten lore and context to fill in your missing gaps that didnt make sense too you.
According to you, humans, dwarf gnomes and elves had to die for the mistakes of the orcs so that they would have a second chance. Your morals suck.
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precisely, it was a small amount of orcs, orgimm led big big horde
And yet there is this
^^This is you claim my dude, not mine.