Sources???
Likewise… Can you proove the Alliance set up and built their alliance settlements beyond Theramore before Garrosh?
What settlements are you referring to exactly?
The ones you built up in the barrens beyond Theramore? You know the ones that prompted garrosh to want too nuke Theramore…
If you are referring to the Northwatch, it was built after the battle for Hyjal against Archimonde by the survivors of Lordaeron, in an area that did not yet belong to the horde. Possibly the creation of Orgrimmar and this fort were parallel. This fortress has been in that position since Thrall’s time, when there was no war between the alliance and the horde.
Same with the dwarves’ excavation.
The rest of the alliance fortresses in the Barrens were built during the war.
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You blue guys always have a rightous excuse for everything wrong you do xD I am seriously starting too understand Erevien more and more.
Needless too say the Barrens and Durotar was never Alliance soverign land… And you guys setting up bases there beyond your Kingdoms really only had one intention.
Witch I am pretty sure everybody knows.
But please tell me. Why a bunch of humans and dwarfs wanted to settle smack bang in the middle of Horde land for no apperent reason after the battle of Hyjal ended?
Do you really resort to this when you no longer have any more arguments? xD
You still have yet too defute it though before saying that.
Looks like Moltensage isn’t here too save you… Guess your on your own Delly
Tell us all why the Alliance set up Settlements with War equipment and soldiers deep into horde territory?
This is a classic wow map, before cataclysm:
https://imgur.com/XgrYY7y
Ratchet doesn’t belong with the horde neither. The horde never had complete sovereignty over the Barrens.
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Was a fallen Kul’tiran settlement from when Dealin proudmore arrived… He died and got defeated…
Next?
Not so though without Moltensage are you? xD Alliance.
Kultiras at that time did not belong to the alliance. And they had their own reasons for continuing the war against the horde, since it was one of the human factions that after the second war voted in favor of the complete elimination of the orcs.
Time has only shown that they were not wrong.
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Oh they where very much apart of the Alliance… Its actually written in the lore that they where…
The Kul’tirans left the Alliance in fact after this happen. After jaina betrayed her father in favor of the Horde…
The Entire jaina storyline is in fact about this in BFA and Kul’tiras.
They were part of the “Great Alliance of Lordaeron”, the same one that had fought against the orcs. The orcs were outlaws, as they fled the concentration camps. At no time was there a peace treaty. Only with the troops that Jaina led.
Kul Tiras has not been part of the Stormwind alliance until BFA
It’s the same Alliance-.- The only reason you guys call it the ‘‘new and the old’’ Alliance is because one where led by Lordaeron… And the other by Stormwind…
But Stormwind was destroyed by the time the Alliance of Lordaeron was still a thing… And still rebuilding…
If we somehow wake up Erevien and he decided to come here it would be a burning fire debate, battle of all times in the forums
So the current horde is the same as Gul’dan and Blackhand?
Because above some people defend that “it is not the same horde.”
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By the way you guys condem and judge everything we do? We might as well be. Who gives a 
anymore… Any lore reason we give to explain the hordes actions are thrown aside anyway…
And you still condem and judge all Horde actions as one and the same anyway… But the moment we call out like say? Garithos? The Alliance can suddenly not be judged anymore…
Rules for me but not for you eh?
You are comparing a few water sparks to an ocean xD
My point this entire time from when I first entered this thread was that ‘‘The sins of the horde does not excuse the sins of the Alliance’’ That the Alliance is capable of being the bad guys too…
I have yet too encounter a single Alliance fanboy who are capable of admitting that the Alliance can be evil in this entire thread… That doesn’t get super butt hurt at the mere suggestion
The “sins of the alliance” would not have been committed if the horde had not created an extreme situation where the population of the alliance was risking their existence.
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