To be honest it would not be the best action to do, even if there was somewhat threat of horde getting more powerful, until the actual war breaks out, you better just try to keep diplomatic talks. And bolster defense lines, like alliance got kul tiras, just sort it out, rebuild the fleet and get it ready for defense. And if the horde actually decides to burn stormwind again, they would have a trouble if alliance prepares fleet to defend the city.
taht is true but blizz needed some way to push the B11 into horde, even blizz admited it they need a “prety” race for the hode sind least people waned plya ugly races, ans soon as the b11 were part of the horde they came the most (paler) race into taht faction)
even the old voice lines said ony those who resit shall eb killed.
That peoplce get attacke d by jaian was even a bug which blizazrd confirmed back in the day
to send a messane and tbh, even withoiut the attack on daza alor the zandalari woud join up the horde sinc ethe horde champion resolved the betraly in higher ranks and helped zandar.
And tehy woud have the massiv fleet which was sylvanas main intrest
so the old horde and new horde are the same but the grand alliance and alliance of lorderon are differant? 
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Incorrect. The Son of Grommash Hellscream.
Former Warchief of the Iron Horde CHOSE to embrace the Light. Other Orcs chose his path as well. They peacefully coexist with High Exarch Yrel.
No. The Shadowcouncil simply had not the power and influence they wanted. Until the Alliance and green skins Horde was defeating the Iron Horde. Thus the remnants became the Fel horde.
Grommash Hellscream led the Iron Horde. Not Garrosh.
Grommash Hellscream held his axe Gorehowl in the air. Shouting to HIS Iron Horde “We will never be slaves, but we will be conquerors”
A one sided story meant to pain High Exarch Yrel in the worst possible view.
When the Maghar failed to get the Ogres on their side they killed them.
False equivalence logical fallacy. Scarlet Crusade see everything that is not them as potential Undead.
Peaceful coexistence is possible.
Maghar Orcs CHOSE to resist this choice.
JOIN OR DIE IS NOT PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE
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You are projecting again, stop
https://imgur.com/a/NnRhIKc
To understand the context on how exactly demons were converting orcs, they were using their superstitions against them, ancestors appeard to shamans in dream and shoving in any agenda that legion wants them to believe in, obviously those were visions sent by legion warlocks.
https://imgur.com/t1j1LZ3
the spirits went silent thing was a scheme orchestrated by demons too, and aftermath was even more vile.
You see, orcs aren’t players, they didn’t read lore, they don’t have meta knowledge on how fel works, all they knew is that their gods abandoned them and new “prophet” appeared and proposed a solution, classic tragic trope
https://imgur.com/a/ZKBKmSN
ner’zhul was a tragic leader
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Incorrect. The Old Horde and the current Horde are the same Horde.
Eitrigg was among the first Horde that came through the Dark Portal. Has been involved with the Horde ever since. Advising Warchiefs and even led the Horde war effort against Stromgarde in Battle for Azeorth.
Eitrigg influences generations of Horde soldiers and civilians.
The Alliance of Lordaeorn was too far from the Grand Alliance for there to be any real cooperation. The Alliance of Lordaeron was defeated by the scourge with 60% of them becoming Horde and the rest then becoming neutral organisations.
The Grand Alliance is what the Alliance is today.
They are not the same thing.
He refuse to engage in lore that doesnt paint horde evil alliance good. anything complicated can burn
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that’s why i just drown him in lore text and my knowledge, so he doesn’t have any true standing, let every reader of this tread see that molty is fraud, liar, and just another murica agenda parrot
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i try to he doesnt listen tho
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i have entire chronicles pdf file right on my screen, should suffice, it’s obvious that draenor’s fall is brought upon as tragedy in lore text, and not a “rise of evil empire of evil green orcs”
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and anyone who looks into it would understand that
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Excuses - Deflections - Justifications.
When Night Elves burned in Teldrassil the same thing was done.
Anduin Wrynn and Genn Greymane were shocked at the site. “She is killing her own troops”.
The Horde speaks of Honour. “Honour no matter how dire the battle, Never forsake it”. Spoken by Varok Saurfang and repeated by Garrosh Hellscream.
Hellscream will never have slaughtered Horde soldiers let alone raise them into Undeath.
Excuses - Deflections - Justifications.
Every time the Horde do something wrong or commit yet another atrocity. It is almost always the same response.
you just ignored my chronicles references and replied only to warloor XD
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see what i mean
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Technically molty is a biproduct of bfa’s writing, just compare how chris writes horde and alliance to how afrasiabi and team have written horde and alliance. Chris isn’t good at writing stories but he is good at description and characterization, in metzen’s eyes horde is a band of misfits that found a common ground, in molty’s and afrasiabi’s eyes horde is antagonist to lawful good alliance
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Horde leadership are a reflection of the Horde.
Look at the Kor’Kron. It COMPLETELY fell apart after Garrosh Hellscream was defeated.
Yeah. Lets ignore history when it is convenient.
Could you elaborate on the “morally wrong takes over there years” please?
Technically both Jaina Proudmoore - the Kul Tirans and the Silver Covenant was not a part of the Alliance when the alleged “purge of Dalaran” took place.
Do not believe Horde propagandists. Who will also blame the Alliance for the actions of High Exarch Yrel.
Please be specific about these “sins of the Alliance”.
Tuarajo was a military target. The Alliance is not responsible for the wellbeing of Horde civilians upon their release. Overzealous Alliance soldiers were executed.
Vulpera interfered with the Alliance war effort. The Alliance did attempt to drive away / scare away the Vulpera. But Vulpera aggression force our hand.
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everything is millitary target if you stretch hard enough XD.
See ukraine war and bombing hospitals because they were deemed by russian’s military as strategic targets.
Is this supposed to be a good thing?
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Yes but making civilians only escape into a quilboar is certainly morally questionable
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Anyway my stance on taurajo and other faction war crap quests is everyone is simultaneously wrong and right, blizzard likes to write quests where both factions are right from their own perspectives, to the point when events change depending on perspective for the only reason being is appeasing players.
Blizzard constantly does quests in which events radically changes depending on perspective since cata, it’s basically trollposts to provoke faction war posts on forums
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