Why are you keep giving instant spells to casters?

PVP Arenas
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Rogues always need a fat nerf and they never get one, now discs are seriously bad in M+ nerfing them in PVP makes them crippled in M+. Not they dont need a nerf in raiding… Disc is a messy spec indeed.

The spec is butchered to where i play it and use it and thats because of all the pvp whiners. That is my point, did i have to get 2400 rating to come here and tell you your pvp whiners butchered my spec in M+ i play it? Quite dont think so.

Says the warlock?
Youre right next to them, did they butcher you?

Im low rated because i dont play it.

I dont care what the conversation was for, my point is that useless whiners like you butcher specs for us where we play them in PVE.

You have the tendency to derail the thread, create a non existing argument to prove yourself like i track this, i play this i know this.

I dont care what you play, i dont care what you know and i dont care what you track, the spec was butchered for no reason.

Dont talk about imbeciles shade, youre the prime example of that 1200 rio s2 rogue who was teaching us how to do high keys whislt your best was 11.
Im not teaching anyone here, im making my point about the spec you whiners are whining for, grow up a bit :slight_smile:

Rogue mage are the strongest in pvp and M+, mage in season 4 was the strongest spec everywhere in the game + raiding.

Now if shadow is good in raiding it must be nerfed?
You even have a logic here?

I think you should read it again, because if you think your graph that shows shadows topping damage in the PREPATCH should be balanced i did not see fire mages being balanced for a whole season 4.

Neither rogues being balanced in season1-2-3 M+ which makes you argument invalid because you just play arenas, nothing else.

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Shadow was overtuned in prepatch, deal with it.

Nothing you just typed has to do with the simple fact that

It seems you just don’t understand what I typed there. But enough pointless argueing with you.

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SP was crushing even warlocks.

Aff locks have 2 speccs in the same bracket.

Sp was in a league of their own.

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Did a M+ yesterday and i got out Dps’d by a ww for 1k+
While i was having the same output with a mage. That is balanced to you now ?
2.7k VS 3.7k ?

You seem to dodge the fact that pvp whiners destroy specs in PVE just because they are used to be beaten by rogues and mages only that never get nerfed.

So now that Locks will be crushing everyone and SP’s need a nerf according your theory ?

Imagine having 2 op specs :upside_down_face:

Now locks are a league of their own, lets nerf them too

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Its arcane mage and BM hunter you dingus.

Destro is mid pack and demo is bottom tier, you would know this if you did some research.

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Let’s quickly forget that, for example, WW got butchered in PvP thanks to M+. And still moving goalposts I see. So with that said, I won’t reply to you any longer.

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Your class toped them out from s4 till now for a short period of time, i can understand you strife for your opness but becoming what you blame and want nerfed right now makes you a dingus not me.

WHOAH
Omg 1/3 specs is bad whilst your other 2 are top tier!!
Lets nerf shadow.

How did this happen?
Because WW was a long forgotten spec because turbo fists where added in the game, since then nothing changed with it.

Because you have nothing better to say i guess.

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There is a difference to bonkers broken in a tier of its own and strong.

But i get that you feel a need to be broken to feel viable.

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Was there ever an encounter that needed a SP to be doable?
Because there was 2 in NyA that needed a lock to be doable, considering the fact they where n2 dps and needed for their toolkit while shadow was like 7?
Wasnt your class that stood top tier in arena’s season 4 as well?

Tell me, did you made any post during all season 4 that your lock needed a nerf?
You being highly biased and making irrelevant statements does not exclude the fact youre playing a more overpowered spec from the one you whine for.

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Yeah, I did. I understand when my specc is over the top.

Just hillarious.

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Show me where you said that your class needs a nerf. :upside_down_face:

What exactly is hillarious to you?
Your spec right now is top tier M+, Arenas + Raiding.

Yet shadow that was topping raiding and arenas had to be nerfed, but you are balanced and never biased…

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You see, that right there is why you’re becoming a laughing stock.

I never said that aff locks are fine, If they nerfed them my reaction would be “fair.”

And I’ve made a lot of posts not gonna take the time to dig them out, i’m sure most of the regular posters here can confirm I never defended destro locks.

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You already became a laughing stock mentioning as a lock that SP’s needed to be nerfed while clearly you are way more OP than they ever where.

Replying to a forum warrior who demands nerfs doesn’t make me “you”
Locks are the last they should talk about balance and how op other classes are.

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You need to stop looking at the class people post on, me being a warlock player does not mean SP was fine.

SP nerfed was justified, how come locks need a nerf but the class that is doing even more damage than the top warlock specc does not also need a nerf???

Im fine with aff getting nerfed, why are you not fine with SP the even stronger specc getting one.

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Being a lock means you first should look at your class opness then talk about others who are clearly inferiors to you.

I dont know if you actually read what i wrote up there, but that nerf literally butchered the class in M+ i play it.

Going 1k less overall DPS is not a nerf, its death sentence but being a lock still top tier everywhere makes you talk from safe distance.

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Oh yeah my bad i forgot how warlock have and are totally dominating the m+ scene.

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You talk about pre-patch balance, dont you know your class is literally broken in M+ right now? :rofl:

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Not necessarily. They could either make the nerfs PvP-only (which they probably should have done with shadow too if it didn’t need a PvE nerf) or just… hit the PvP talents. Thoughtsteal deserves a change, for one.

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No I’m well aware its really strong right now because of the VoP + rain synergy, but so is for example BM hunter still. You wont be seeing a destro meta in SL.

And are you also aware that SP was giga broken??? Cause you seem to be doing a lot of whataboutism.

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Exactly!
You know how they “balance” specs…
they just butcher it to make it look they do somthing.

Once more, im not a pvp player but as ive seen its strong vs locks + mages that are already too overpowered, specially mages.
Now if a priest can lock mages from sheep its kinda okish considering how strong rmx is, again not my field but it looks like it.

If youre aware what was the question for?
Simply once you want “prepatch balance” now its ok because BM is still strong? You are stronger.

You will see locks everywhere else though.

Outparsing you by a bit does not make them giga broken, in M+ they where just strong. Nowhere near close to firemages/bm of season 4 that where not touched at all and outlol that was not touched for 2 seasons.

But forum warriors wanna butcher a spec to have balance for the next 3 weeks or so? Your logic.