Why AV is ruined at the moment! Why alliance can't win!

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Aeternum-stonespine

Because like Beware says, the alliance continuously loses every pvp clash. I just don’t get how they can’t understand this is the bigger issue. Last AV I was on last evening, the alliance would run from cave down the road and then just turn back when they saw a force of horde riding on their direction. They just turn their backs to pvp clashes constantly or lose most of them because they always get outnumbered on those clashes they can’t avoid because large numbers of players directly avoided said clash on purpose leaving their team mates who pressed on alone to die to the horde’s bigger numbers. Apparently most alliance posting about map unbalanced are always too busy measuring distances and can’t notice obvious things like this.

Well, I didn’t say every clash, just an overwhelming amount of them.
While what you say is indeed a problem, what you didn’t mention was how even if there’s an evenly numbered huge clash, there are, let’s say 80 people to simplify the example, all doing things at the same time, and not everyone is in range of everyone else during the entire time of the clash either. So positioning plays a part as well, which every RBG player can confirm for you.
Not everyone has AoE to spam as well, some are better single target and so on.

Eventually, it comes down to what I mentioned earlier:

@Bewarê-frostmane

A BG is fundamentally decided by the ability to beat the opponents in the PvP encounters. It’s just that simple. It sets the pace and everything simply snowballs from there.
What affects this are things like shamans being better at offensive gameplay while paladins are better at defensive gameplay, and the collective gear average of your team, as well as class & role setup of the team. It all affects this outcome.

@Bewarê-frostmane

I never said it’s “just” decided by PvP, I said it’s decided by PvP, period. Everything snowballs from that PvP element, the ability to assault an objective, to defend an objective, to defend an assaulted objective and the pace of collecting materials to turn in, and so on.
That all originates from PvP and which side dies faster than the other. As a whole.

Let’s say 1 side scores 5 HKs before the other side scores 1, early on in a clash. This affects the overall amount of sources producing numbers like damage output and healing output and so on, from that point.

And we all know the effects these things can have.

Then there are playstyles that are different, and it’s basically a melting pot of an insane amount of variables that together ends up deciding which side beats the other in a huge clash which opens up the way to reach objectives and so on, and to basically apply pressure.
Then there’s such a thing as overextending as well.

PS:
This is also the reason why SH gy being closer to the first clash is by design an advantage, however player perception has misconstrued it as being a disadvantage.
Because when the PvP clash ends up “even”, where you basically get to score 1 HK for every player you lose on your side at the same time, the alliance side will replenish their numbers faster than the horde side due to SH gy being closer to that first clash.