So you’ve gone from implying that mythics are exclusive to saying it’s pug content for everyone. Great, so what’s the problem with a group finder in that case?
I haven’t said anything is exclusive, maybe you’d like to quote where I said that?!
PuG content does not exclude people, you are free to list any group for any dungeon and take any players you see fit.
The LFD tool is your group finder, they are not going to automate it.
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The LFG tool itself leads to stratification and apartheid of the playerbase. With the existence of ilevel and raider io WoW has never been this exclusive. Even in Vanilla it was easier to find groups.
That is a rather over dramatic description of a tool that lets you list groups to find more people. It does not require you to have some achievement or qualification to use it.
It is an all inclusive method that allows any player to list a group or find a group for an activity in the game.
Now I see that you are trolling. It takes a great deal of time to get a group together to do a dungeon in Vanilla. First one starts spamming the LFG channel. It is not a fast process to find four other players in the right level bracket to do a dungeon, so that can take a good while. Then once you are all in the group you wait for everyone to slowly make their way over to the designated dungeon. Somtimes those dungeons require some clearing to get to. So the group may have to meet at a safe place and then travel down to the entrance, fighting as they go. Then finally you can start. There is no CRZ there are only people on the server.
That does not compare to Open app, fill in details, list, hit accept or decline on applicants from any other realm, two people travel in at a super rapid rate compared to Vanilla and summon the rest via the summon stone right outside.
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True, it’s a tool. But to act like it doesn’t requires qualifications is completely ignoring human nature.
The reason I said it was easier to find groups in Vanilla is because all they took into account was your level and class. You didn’t have to be rejected twenty times as a dps because your ilevel and raider io score wasn’t good enough. The point is that many causals DO NOT WANT to go through a huge application and vetting process and trying to sell ourselves like a job search each time we play the game.
You list your group and you can accept anyone of any ilvl or score as you see fit. No vetting required. That is your choice. Just like it’s someone else’s choice to ask for the first born child (slight exaggeration) before wanting to accept them to their PUG group.
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Which is Definitely what’s gonna happen when something like this is implemented. “Hurr durr damage was low hurr durr no interrupts, this stoopid lfd m+ tool, gIT gOoD”
Even if something like this were implemented i wouldnt go anywhere near it, i dont mind learningkeys, but they will be with people i choose to do them with and always on voice to make sure a bit of fun can be had…
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So what’s the difference then between pugging it with LFG tool or pugging it with dungeon finder? Both have random people right?
I can choose people in premades. I kinda dont want 320 ilvl in +7 keys thank you very much
Dungeon finder solves that with minimum ilevel requirement to queue. Next.
But what would be min ilvl for each ley?
Edit: if dungeon finder used similar ilvl requirements as player did literally nothing stops you from getting into a group in like 1 min
From the title i understand that only for normal mythic dungeons, not keys, which makes sense tbh.
From 200+ replies i haven’t seen one to at least TRY to answer the question in the title.
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Oh for m0 it could be viable to implement lfg without any problems. I dont really have problem with that
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I will answer for you. Blizz is lazy and often dont think thru implementations.
Same old story with M+ that was with raids before LFR ( not saying now that LFE is a good tool , still bad implemented but thats a different topic ).
The thing with M+ que would be a easy LFG implementation in regards to item level que. ( like H were you cant que if ilevel is below the minimum requirement ).
- people who would use this would willing put them selfs in the situation were are paried with non skilled players… so no grief there . Those who prefere chat / organise group could have the cake too.
The thing with “you” making your own group is that you can wait long and hard for tank and healer. Or whom will join looks at rio score and leaves.
Also M ++ is not quite an apeal to the casual crowd since is timed content and everybody in a MMORPG “loves” time content.
Ps : remember chat with LFM raid link acchivment … well since the only way to get the said acchivment was to raid for most was an unendig loop of dumbness .
Well just the way you are acting means i would instantly leave any group id join that would turn out to have you in it so i guess this goes both ways.
I would never want to play with someone that can only act so hostile like youre a 12yo boy who likes to act tough on the internet.
Oh and btw this is coming from someone who also doesnt want to see m+ queueable(jesus that word), so dont even try to go off at me.
Edit: allthough i wouldnt mind M0 being queueable at this point in the expac, would make a lot of people happy
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Phew, i think that one might hurt some people, but im not afraid to say you are totally right.
If your anxiety gets in the way of you forming groups than youll need to go work on that and getting over that hurdle might even help you with you anxiety issues.
Either trolling or an idiot.
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M0 queue I understand. And it has a weekly lockout, so it is not even farmable. But at least it is an easy way to get your first keystone.
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Every piece of content in this game is puggable. Raids and Dungeons. Just search right people and go for it. If you have anxiety its pretty much like stage fright.
You just swallow the lump in your throat and do your best. In time the fear will disappear when you get used to things and mechanics.
I had same problem in Vanilla. I was afraid of going to BGs or duel in Durotar. But I did it anyway and fear faded in time.
pulling the casual card in an attempt to hide that you’re just lazy is not going to trick anyone
no, you’re going to need to create a group yourself or be patient in order to find a group
I can’t see how automatic group creation will ever make higher mythic plus a workable thing.
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