If you make your own group there is no vetting. There is no need, nor is it suitable to make mythic dungeons have an automatic queuing system.
You are trolling because if you don’t even own retail you don’t have a clue on how hard it is to get a group either. OR you do own retail and for some reason want to act like a noob who does not own retail in your other threads.
So you prefer wasting your time in a queue and hoping from dungeon to dungeon and wont finish them? Let alone finish it intime? strange definition of fun in my eyes… I prefer to at least be able to finish a dungeon.
But… but… casual… no time for that… don’t want to interact with people… in a mmo…
You can totally be social with your friends, guilds and communities while also using a queuing system ingame. I see no problem with M0’s being queuable.
If m0 are queueable you could just simply remove heroic dungeons? Why 3 queueable difficulties? Or remove M0 and let the key be dropped in heroic.
OP wants all key lvls to be in the LFD though, and i wouldnt mind at all as long as i dont have to use it will be a cryfest om the forums for sure if they implement it, like the example given above, shrine tyrannical with close to no interrupts. Yay!
m0 is one thing. this could be made queueable with the removal of heroic but never ever m+.
the problem is, it will affect us too because blizz will have to make changes to the dungeons… and that’s why i am against that…
They have higher requirement levels, and I am not sure heroic has all the same mechanics as mythic already (since I only did heroic somewhere in the first week of bfa at all). For me they can remove heroic anyway I don’t care. Also Mythic has a weekly lockout for loot, heroic hasn’t.
M+ queuings seems unrealistic, indeed.
true that but the loot in mythic is so bad they could easily change the lockout to daily. wouldn’t matter too much. heroic dungeons are even now close to obsolete.
Yeah i dont want them to change it either. Thats why i’ve said earlier in thread that they need to keep timers as is, u need to complete 2’s to move up to 3’s and so on, if u fail the key gets downgraded like it is for all of us. No changes. Just an easier process for «casuals» (OP’s words) to get into groups and not need rio. Queues will probably be looong (what tank will join there when they can just get insta invited to a premade group) and chance of key depleting super high. But hey, give them the challenging content they want (but making your own grp in the LFG tool is too hard ).
Well, lets say you level now a char. With turning 120 you are something like 280 ilvl. You instant get 385 items from another char which makes you around 350 ilvl because you are missing some slots. So you need to queue a couple of heroic dungeons for the rings/trinkets/weapons. You get some pearls for the intro quests and can upgrade 2/3 items to 400.
When do you have access to M0? 375?
After ‘farming’ some heroics you can get in M0 queuing, and get also your first keystone’. I see no problem with that.
I don’t understand the fear of joining manual groups. no group below 10 will check your rio anyway… never seen that and i did many low keys for friends who invited just everything who was able to press “sign up” never checked anything, just if the class fits the group.
OP wouldnt even know since he hasnt played BFA He’s making a problem out of nothing. According to his first post he quit retail years ago. This seems like a hate rio post in disguise, but if u havent touched retail in years do u even know what rio is. I didnt when i got back into the game last year
Believe it or not, I played whole legion and until the last patch with argus I didn’t even knew my own rio score… because i simply didn’t care at all.
I mostly played m+ with guildies and friends and they didn’t care either about my score.
I only play with friends and ppl from community, so rio does not affect me in any ways (i probably wouldnt get into groups anyways as resto shammy, but thats another story ). I can understand ppl choosing players with high rio for their keys, its their key. No one is stopping anyone from making their own group and just accept whoever applies to it without checking rio or ilvl though.
I have no idea what mine is. Only reason i knew I was ‘good’ some point ago was because someone else told me. And my reaction as: What is RIO and why I should care?" - I see RIO as something people need for PUGs to have some sort of overview of other players outside ilevels, but I see it completely non-relevant data if you do not PUG at all, or attend PUgs via someone else’s personal invite (guildie or friend)
M+ would be weird to be able to queue for in LFD, but just mythics would be awsome.
Perhaps the Harder content acctually could make people want to taste «the next level»
I havent liked mythics in BFA.
In Legion I had so mutch fun and never had problems finding groups as long as my ilvl matched.
Now its all this rio-stuff, wich sucks when your a altoholic
i think one of the major problems is that casuals think they weren’t chosen because of rio but in reality when I open let’s say a +10 your queue instantly fills up with people and then i choose what i think would fit my group. No rio needed to check and I have a high successrate but the random thinks he wasn’t chosen because of rio but that’s simply not true…
Jesus are you still at this?
Is classic not good enough that you have to resort to this to entertain yourself?
You suck, people have no obligation to carry you, which is what you are after. If you were a good player, you wouldn’t be doing this.
Now go to bed.
I don’t think you answered my previous question (did so but dodging the actual question): do you agree that except operation mechagon there’s not much between example mythic 0 atal’dazar and heroic atal’dazar?
If so, why can’t the line be drawn for example, between mythic 0 and mythic 1, and make everything up to and including mythic 0 queue-able?