People seem to forget that RaF was introduced in TBC which is basically the same thing, paying money to skip levels and level faster.
They are also usually the same people who pay gold to bots and mages to get boosted through SM and other dungeons so they don’t have to quest and grind for hours
Not saying that’s everyone but it is the majority
I’m sure if they were in the same position with no level 60s to hop into outland on they would be complaining all the same and demanding a fresh or some sort of catch up since they want everyone to play the game their way.
(everything posted below is my own opinion, when I state a fact without proof do not take it as if I was holding the one true solution, It’s just annoying to read at the end of every sentence imho)
The thing that bothers me most about the two sides of the argument is how most people consider leveling a chore. It basically goes by
A : “I don’t want to level it’s boring and I have no interest for vanilla zones”
B : “I’ve been through the leveling process, so other people MUST do the same, no way these people get privileges I didn’t have”.
Everyone thinking like this in fact belongs to retail. Classic WoW leveling experience, and generally mmorpg leveling experiences, are supposed to be fun,
You get story lines, you get to understand more about the story of WC3 and how some of the zones changed between the events of WC3 and WoW, you get very nice rewards from leveling, the dungeons are quite fun, you get excited for greens, professions gives you unique things(and not only +x for y stat), and this is a non-exhaustive list.
Really if you dislike leveling I’m actually wondering why you’re playing classic at all. Because it means that you’re only interested in end game content and challenge, and classic endgame is a joke compared to retail end game.
The link to the actual topic is that because most people consider leveling a chore, a large part of anti-boost people are in fact preaching for boosts. What I would have liked to see are people who don’t want boost because they enjoyed the journey they took in the game and would like people to experience the same because they’re sure those people would love it, and explain to them why the leveling experience is that fun and nice.
But all I see are petty fights (I’m guilty of the same as well). We’ll get the game we deserve, sadly.
I actually am fine with the character boost since ppl who want to play TBC probably would like to get into outlands as soon as possible. So it’s like buying the game to get level 58 and into the outlands.
What really grinds my gears is the fact that they datamined a new mount from the tbc beta client. I doubt that it’s obtainable from gameplay tho I can’t be sure. More possible option is that it is a store mount. I am pretty sure when ppl say they are ready for some changes they didn’t mean that they want store mounts. What the boost seems to do is that it opens the gates for more monetization.
Also the boost just makes botting easier which is not a good thing for anyone else but for Blizzards bank account.
Its kinda clear: If this boost gets into the game, there wil be a cashshop an this shop will lead us in highspeed to retailquality gameplay!
Uhm… i bought the boost, three mounts and i cleard LFR… I wonder why i dont have fun anymore…
I dont have time to play before Sunwell so I should be able to buy T6 gear with credit card.
This applies only to pro-boosters, and is precisely why they support the boost. They can’t be bothered to level.
Nobody on the anti-boosting side is saying levelling is a chore. Far from it. We’re saying levelling is an essential part of the game.
They can already do that by levelling right now. They don’t need to pay real money to skip ahead.
You already acknowledge that the boost will encourage botting, so there’s very few reasons for you to support it.
These imagined players who ‘don’t like Classic but love TBC’? I personally don’t think they really exist. I think that has always been a cop-out argument.
Leveling is a chore. I’m really not looking forward to level my draenei shaman. I do want a shaman so I have to level it since I’m not going to buy the boost either. There is ppl who don’t like leveling but they level up 1 character and just keep playing that since they don’t want to level another. I am 1 of those ppl.
Tldr; how DARE tbc players demand to access the Dark Portal at the same pace as the Classic players who are simply transferring over their BIS chars because the option exists for them to do so!
I see you didn’t read longer than 1 sentence from my post since you think I support the boost. I’m against it because it opens the game for more monetization. Like the mount I was talking about.
I am 100% sure there is ppl that got into classic and got to like level 30 and then quit do want to play TBC. I don’t really care about playing classic anymore since I’ve cleared all the raids, and I’ve been just raid logging for like 4 months.
At least you’re prepared to still put in the effort and not skip it by taking the path of least resistance.
You may find levelling a chore, but when you actually hit that level 70, put in the work, run the dungeons, get a few decent blues, get your crafting skills maxed, get some rep, get your first attunement, and enter Kharazan for the first time - it will mean something tangible. You’ll think back to all the effort you put it to get there and it will have real weight.
It’s the same reason why cooking an elaborate meal from scratch with fresh ingredients always feels better than just slamming a ready meal in the microwave.
It’s like mandatory military service. You suffer for 6-12 months in there and then look fondly back at it, but in the end it was a wasted 6-12 months.
Well given that the first line of your post literally reads “I actually am fine with the character boost” that’s probably not surprising.
Actually I read all of your post, and I broadly agree with most of it.
If you’re raid logging, I’m not surprised you’re fed up with Classic. I’d be pretty fed up with it too. Also it sounds as though you’ve achieved everything you need to achieve from Classic, and there’s not much else there for you to keep you interested.
Still, you cleared Naxx, which is a heck of an achievement.
Yes but essential and chore are not antithetical. And because of that, you open up a dimension of valid and constructed antithesis to what you are going to write.
Whereas if you bring up the topic to how fun and enjoyable it is, then not only the only answer you can have is “I don’t find it fun”, and there’s no argument to be made about it, hence it enters the domain of pure personal opinion. (a chore cannot be fun, the moment it enters the fun realm it loses its “chore” essence, just like silence loses its essence the moment you speak)
And because you lose this kind of argumented discussion, you can actually promotes what you enjoy and try to communicate it to more people, instead of trying to pursue an argumentation about something that has no mathematical proof hence making it endless. You’re not an anti-booster, you’re a pro-fun version of WoW! You’re not a selfish person who wants to preserve what he thinks is the true WoW (the you is not directed as you directly of course.), but you’re a selfless person who wants people to try what you love so that they can be happier, which in turns will make you more happy.
That requires a lot of humility, something I find myself lacking too often, but I’m sure you’re a better person than I am.
(I love endless conversations and even while discussing maths I do it, but I think it’s very hard to pull out in this kind of environment, those kinds of short answers are better when going with personal feelings, that’s my opinion only, like all that I wrote above ofc.)
I want to play as horde in tbc and i cannot be bothered to start from level 1. and do the old obsolete content again. so if it is not for tis boost i would not play tbc
Except that there allready is a catch up mechanic and a pretty significant at that not only do you need 30% less xp to lvl 60 but also quests will reward more xp in the pre patch, this is a catch up mechanic.
However what you’re relating to is p2w and try to sell it as a catch up mechanic.
Also the way in which it will influence economy on tbc servers with bots using the boost you will spend the time you saved from not lvling farming proportionally more to afford your consumables mounts and what not, jk you propably will buy gold from the boters enabling them even more. ;>
It is not good it is slow. need boost to 58 quaker then more exp leveling
30% more exp is not good need more
Seems to not be true, as most of pro-booters on forums absolutely despise leveling and want everything handed to them, because they feel their time is more valuable than others.
You mean the company that is going to make bank with this change?
Very objective and well regarded opinion.
Hate to break it to you but Classic and TBCC are full of old content. In fact it is nothing but old content…
Yeah, I never understood that one. People are openly happy they are paying money to avoid a problem in a game they are already paying to play rather than ask for a fix to the problem. Consumerism and lack of logical capabilities.