Why Hunters Should Never Roll vs a Rogue on Shadowcraft Set Items

Yesterday I won my final Shadowcraft Item missing for me to complete 6 pieces of the set and get the 6 piece Set Bonus. It was the Shadowcraft Tunic. THREE BAD NELF HUNTARDS IN THE RAID rolled against me and lost.

I don’t expect Huntards to understand. This isn’t aimed to Huntards but to those Hunters who are intelligent.

Dear Hunter,

Perhaps you have seen the Rogue PVE PRE-BIS list spammed at mediocre (or bad) Raid guilds:

MAEP (MING’S MAXIMUM DPS AEP FOR RAIDS) VALUES FOLLOW (SHADOWPANTHER NET ARMOR SETS):

Eye of Rend 27
Mark of Fordring 23
Truestrike Shoulders 27
Cadaverous Armor 42
Cloudrunner Girdle 22
Devilsaur Leggings 33
Swiftwalker Boots 23
Deepfury Bracers 17
Devilsaur Gauntlets 24
Painweaver Band 18
Blackstone Ring 18
Hand of Justice 30
Blackhand’s Breadth 20
Cape of the Black Baron 25
Blackcrow 11
Devilsaur Set Bonus 15

TOTAL: 375 MAEP

There are 2 problems with this PVE-BIS list:

a. It does not account for Alliance Greater Blessing Of Kings (+10% All Stats)
b. It is not accurate b/c a Rogue with 6 pieces Shadowcraft will do more damage in Raids. (see below)

The above set, proclaimed like the Gospel in bad guilds, has got WAY TOO MUCH +HIT which contributes less MAEP than raw stats which equals less DPS potential.

According to Shadowpanther Net calculations, the first Shadowcraft Set Bonus contributes +20 MAEP (40AP).

The second Shadowcraft Set Bonus (Chance to restore +30 Energy) contributes +30 MAEP. It is, in other words, equal to THIRTY (30) AGILITY OR 60 ATTACK POWER for Rogues who do raiding. This is a HUGE DPS INCREASE.

Having 6 set pieces returned to me enough energy for 42 Sinister Strikes in yesterday’s MC raid which mutiplied by 550, the average of my Sinister Strike hits and crits equals, 23650 extra damage!

Here’s the Raid Pre-BIS list for Rogues with 6 pieces Shadowcraft Set Modified:

SHADOWCRAFT 6 PIECE PVE PRE-BIS LIST
Shadowcraft Cap 27
Mark of Fordring 23
Shadowcraft Spaulders 22
Shadowcraft Tunic 26
Shadowcraft Belt 19
Devilsaur Leggings 33
Devilsaur Gloves 24
Shadowcraft Boots 21
Shadowcraft Bracers 15
Blackhand’s Breadth 20
Hand of Justice 30
Ancient Bone Bow 11
Painweaver Band 18
Blackstone Ring 18
Cape of the Black Baron 25
Shadowcraft Set Bonus 1: 20
Shadowcraft Set Bonus 2: 30
Devilsaur Set Bonus 2: 15

TOTAL 6 PIECE SHADOWCRAFT/DEVILSAUR SETS MAEP: 387

------------------------>So next time you see a Rogue rolling on a Shadowcraft Set Piece just pass.

There’s much better pieces for you Hunter and you can’t even use the 6 piece set bonus.

Hunter Pre Raid BIS:

Look up “Hunter PRe Raid BIS Wowhead”.

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ERRATA: Initially in this post I had argued that the Shadowcraft 6 Piece Set is good only for Human Swords Rogues.

However, this isn’t the case as with the Combat Tree Talents (assuming 5/5 Precision) Rogues of all races need just 1% chance to hit to cap, provided that they have got 305 weapon skill as they should have if they have taken the corresponding talents that award weapon skill points in the Combat Tree.

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Did you even think to look at what gear they had? No? Just because it’s good for you doesn’t mean it’s not good for them. Besides it’s not your loot. If it was it would be for rogues only.

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IT IS LITERALLY FOR ROGUES ONLY. Feral Druids also benefit from it.

Hunters have their own set called BEASTSTALKER’s SET.

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So? If it was for rogues only it would say Class: Rogue, which it doesn’t. Need much spirit do rogues?

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Why get an upgrade from dungeons when you can replace that items from dungeons?

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The +spirit on it is to benefit Feral Druids to whom this set was also aimed at because they too can use the 6 piece set bonus.

A HUNTER IN SIX PIECES OR MORE SHADOWCRAFT IS A HUNTARD.

TLDR : dont take my gear cuz i want everything for me, no matter if its also upgrade for you, its mine!!

Its not class specific so dont… Also acording to that logic i hope u also mock all you holy palies that use something different than plate with intelect… Because u know, those sweet cloth pieces that are pre bis for palies too belong to priests…

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Holy Paladin PVE PRE BIS vs HUMAN SWORDS ROGUE PRE BIS is a bad example:

BECAUSE PALADINS DON’T GAIN A TOTAL OF THE EQUIVALENT OF +90 ATTACK POWER FROM THEIR GEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT USING A DEDICATED SET MADE FOR THEIR CLASS LIKE THE SHADOWCRAFT WAS MADE FOR ROGUES.

Oh please stop this whine. An upgrade is an upgrade no matter which class it was made for. This isn’t retail. It may be better for you but saying if it drops it should be yours is just so retail, aka selfish.

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Not whine, it is FACTS.

Your trolling is unoriginal.

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Your mentality and reasoning only works in guild runs. Sure it’s a much bigger upgrade for you but you was doing a pug with 3 crappy geared hunters, so, yeah.

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U dont get it right? It is uograde for that hunter? Yes it is, so he has all rights to roll… Thats just it, dont like it? Make your own group and set rules

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Fact: You are not the only class it benefits
Fact: You are whining. It’s mine, my precious!

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Yes, he could roll but doing so makes him a Huntard. Shadowcraft Tunic literally has got the same agility on it with a green OF AGILITY level 56 item from the Auction House.

Contradiction, much?

By the way your caps lock appears to be stuck.

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Your class already has a set made for it Druid. It’s called WILDHEART.

This is why you always make your own group, reserve the 1 item you farm, and set master looter.

Never trust a random to respect gear priority, or even have the brain to understand whats best for who.

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That it is BiS for you (and according to you) doesn’t mean it is not an upgrade for someone else…

Saving even 1 fellow Rogue the grief of a Huntard rolling on his PRE-BIS set piece and winning is worth it IMO, which is why I made the OP.

I understand a Feral rolling on Shadowcraft but Huntards SHOULD NEVER ROLL ON IT, unless a Rogue or Feral is not present.

git good, scrub

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