Why is everyone leaving?

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Loot is not meaning full, cause you rarely get it. And when you get it, the stats are most likely gonna be a downgrade.

PvP Meta is (Burst), and there are 4 classes that outshine the other remaining classes in the game until changes in 9.1.

Torghast is not balanced. I can go in and spam 500k executes every second in Twisting Corridor. My priest can’t even break the 10k barrier in ST, rogues don’t survive.
There are probably a couple of hundreds examples that can be given from different specs on this.

The Maw, is straight up a jebait on keeping us subbed for 1% extra dmg with sockets and devaluted amount of rewards.
The only con with the Maw, is that the last raid facing is gonna be the Jailor in 9.3. Good wrapping up of the Hellish Boring Maw, with one last epic fight in the Shadowlands, venturing back to Azeroth.
The Maw is a duplicated Virus from Visions in 8.3 with the same poor rewards. Although its a mighty and cool landscape of empty activities of trash :slight_smile:

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you forgot something:

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
People quit wow.
And so will you!

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I dunno if this is a bait or not, but I… agree with all of it. :confused:

I really don’t understand why people are so mad. Is it the best iteration of WoW? No - it’s not. But it’s the best iteration of WoW in nearly a decade - at least I think so.

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Yeh you mean like WOTLK badges what has been market by Blizzard themself as fail sytem? Maybe go and learn something how damaging deterministic systems ala vendor/currency can be before you post something.

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the forums are made up of a Small minority of players, who have a problem with the game… people dont come to forums to echo GOOD JOB at devs. thats just the way it is.

my problems currently would likely be

  • i Cba to do Twisting corridors. it feels bad on Quite a few classes… and thats before its just tedious to do EIGHT FLOORS OF IT FOR A MOUNT. WHY 8?! WHO DECIDED WE HAD TO DO THE SAME SAME 8 TIMES TO EARN A MOUNT USUABLE IN THE MAW.

  • As u say M+ Feels rather unrewarding…

  • Frost DK BoS build still exists.

Game feels good to me in all honesty and i still enjoy it, its not perfect, theres lots of things i’d like improved, wouldnt say its a bad expansion though. prolly one of the better ones in quite a while.

but someone at blizzard. for the love of christ Please create whole numbers.

I dont understand this Whole dumb stupid of

6 floors
8 layers.
18 floors.
8 layers.

Whats wrong with whole numbers? and we only need 1 Twisting corridors, kthanksbai. Why does it need 7 Easier Modes prior just being able to run the proper one we’re intending to complete. it makes no sense at all.

we just need 1 Difficult layer with 30 floors. litterally, it doesnt feel endless just because u threw 8 layers on it.

they spent more time Ensuring it took players hours to do then they did ensure it was fun… or even every class could actualy enjoy it… imagine playing a Rogue with that to do weekly…

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I like the expansion so far because I don’t have to bother with M+ and raids to play PvP :slight_smile:

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Because there is barely anything to do that’s rewarding, and not even old content has opened up for easy solo’ing because BFA still scales with your power.

Mythic+ up until like level 7 gives you gear on par with world quests, the covenant campaign and other trivial, zero challenge activities. Same with normal raiding.

Also the zones feel disconnected, both physically and lore-wise. There is no sense of exploration, no WORLD of Warcraft. It’s all pocket dimensions with all the exact same story that there is drought, someone is a traitor and all the likable male characters die.

I still play, but honestly, BFA, despite having worse gameplay systems, still felt more rewarding, more like an actual MMO.

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I have no idea what the current engagement is in WoW. Personally I’m not feeling a lot of people are left but I play on a busy realm and I play in a guild/with friends.

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i think this sort of sums it up

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We are playing this game for years and years, I think its just a burnout.

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I dont understand?

The Storyline of Ardenweald was Amazing.
The Story line of Venthry was Awesome
The Main campain was fun,
The Torghast questline was epic, cant wait to see how it ends,

yea but no point doing it more thaan once, people prefear braindead fast ways to level alts because the game is not fun for a lot aof the people who keep playing the game after the first couple months of a new expac unless they get to do endgame content, leveluing and to a point gearing are sort of “in the way” between you and the endgame content you want to do

Hunter plays amazing.

true but legion mm was better, fight me.

The Raid is Magnificent,

overtuned af and very uinfriendly for pugs but if you have a good team sure,problem is that gearing alts makes you have to pug normal or heroic and can lead to a lot of hours of tryharding with very little gear gain

The dungeons

also several things in dungeons are overtuned af (evidented by numerus nerfs)
there is too little gear and alot of gatekeeping (trying to gear up an alt from 160ish to 200 is hell unless you have friends that help you) and the loot is lacking
making you play hours with no upgrades

The zones are great( Not you maldraxus)
The Worldquests are fun, (atleast the first week now they are bland.)

you said it yourself

Even PVP is getting interesting, oneshotting people as a MM hunter truely makes you feel like a Marksman!.

pvp is a minigame in my eyes and i hate it , many pvers hate it too and the fact that its so effective at guaranteing an item at a slot you need in a more effective way than pve does making it almost nessecary for high end progression infuriates me to no end (also onshoting people as mm stops after like 1400cr or you just found someone boosted XD )
also i understand pvp players being annoyed that they have to play pve for so long but maybe we could just have specific pvp gear the a pvp stat at the cost of other secondaries that would make pvp gear bad in pve and vice versa

Torghast is awesome, even tough it needs some love.

if it wasnt for 90%of powers giving you utility instead of damage (walk faster near walls, bigger tar trap radius ,you can read your own mind, control the remote control with you hand,etc) it would be much better.also taking so long to make layer unlocking account wide didnt help at all)

The Maw is a pain in the behindhole but i like it.

boring af , walking simulator for 30 min /day gets realy lame realy fast

I dont get it.
Are we not playing the same game here?
The Anima grind is PERFECT, both ingame as lorewise. there is a drought and blizzard made it so that actively farming it is pointless, so dont do it.
I dont see it.

1 of the redeeming features

This expansion is going in the Top Three with Cataclysm and legion.
i CANT WAIT for more.
And nothing is mandatory.
The only bad thing about SL is the lack of proper rewards. i cba to farm M+ since there is no point. I get my upgrade from the vault and thats it.

More Raids
More story
More zones
( More covenants please)
More dungeons
More torghast( more flavor aswell please)
Maby a new allied race?
The Death of Sylvanas.

i want more. i cant wait for blizzcon to see news on the patch.

Why are we all complaining and crying?
( Conduits are pointless i will admit to that)

the way you upgrade them is also very abusable and lame at the same time

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Something changed in direction of development back in Legion. But Legion was great due to many great features. And BFA was apogee of that bad game design. It’s just about all Legion’s cons, while all pros removed. When I level my characters in old addons, I see how much better game design they had. There was hope, that SL would be better. Yeah, it’s better. But BFA’s legacy still drags it back. I like systems, like Covenant themselves, renown catch-up, gear catch-up. But at the end game is still about grind, RNG-gating and time-gating, as it was back in BFA. Game is still purely about waisting your time at every corner and spoonfeeding yourself by tiny drips of content. Yeah, at the end SL has too small amount of really good content. And this amount is so small, that it’s not enough even for 4 characters. And again. I would compensate it via leveling many alts. But problem is - Blizzard’s attempts to stretch this content once again made it unbearable for alts. Result - I’ll level my last alt to 60 and then I’m done and let my sub run out till next patch, that will fix things. Or not.

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the class tuning is a joke.

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Cant even do Dungeon quests because all leave after Memories drop, wth, but I got an ugly little mount today in Maldraxxus arena so that makes up for it. BLIZZARD PUT MEMORIES AT END OF DUNGEONS ty. Plus #Covid happened & so I forgive you.

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cata lost 10% of subs in last tier that lasted 9 month.

SL likely lost 50%+ in first 2 months of expansion :slight_smile:

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Because this company throws “expansions” away like used tissues and they want bots to run the game.

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Okay. I’m out.

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Hate to break it to you, but Sylvanas can’t die - the Lich King call is too strong, and the Kyrians won’t interfere. She’ll be continuely resurrected, just like all of us are.

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No RP on rp realms :cry:

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For me it’s simple: temporary systems that add very little depth to the game like conduits, renown, Anima, the horrid mission table, Torghast (fun for the first weeks, not anymore).
All these system in their current form will vanish once SL is over, to be replaced by another band-aid system. It’s a big thing when people have more fun in classic and in a few months TBC over all those tedious systems.

Thé end game zone, The Maw, has very little gameplay compare to for example timeless isle, from 4 expansions ago.

Gearing feels more like a rigged slot machine than ever before, especially since it doesn’t drop as much.

So I played a month after release, geared until ilvl 210ish and quit.