2 weeks with Draenai/Belfs … which was not a case for the OG TBC Pre-patch
And 2 weeks are enough to level. example: me. I used Zygor and quested.
Used normal groups in Gnome, SM, ZF for quests.
People don’t like boosted chars and store mounts because it cheapens the game for everybody - including the buyers, even if they don’t know it. It’s not toxic to emote at people to express your dislike about something they’ve done, in this case, buying boosts and mounts.
TBC classic has been known about for a long time, they had plenty of time to play vanilla classic and level a character ready for TBC. I can’t believe people could dislike vanilla so much to refuse to play before TBC. Gameplay wise they’re almost the same.
As for store mounts, it’s the same sorta thing, they’ve not had to earn it. They’ve bypassed having to play the game. And it’s probably worse than that because it was never originally in the game anyway!
I guess you can’t blame the pay2wins because at the end of the day Blizz gave them that option. And who am I to say how they should spend their money but it should never have been an option.
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I’m 30 now and as time goes on I value my time WAAAY more than my wallet. So, you’ve chosen to spend money on a boost and save time on the grind. I can respect that.
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Personally I don’t treat boosted/ Deluxe Edition players any differently than others. It’s their money, they can do what they want with it. Blizz is offering some stuff that those players find worth their while, so they’re buying them.
That been said, I am not a fan of the boost especially, and consider the DE overindulgent on Blizz’s behalf. They are fully optional, sure, but they do feel like an attempted cash grab, and something that belongs to the modern Retail version more than it does to Classic.
Which is why I’m speaking with my wallet. I’m happily paying my sub as I am enjoying the product and I do think that Classic, TBCC and Retail (which I haven’t and probably won’t touch, but still) in a single sub is a good deal, but I do not wish to pay for things that were not in original TBC.
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Oh my, are you trying to educate everyone? Everyone’s likely naive and dumb to you. Way to go you!
You’re part of the reason gaming has become what it is, and will only ever become worse. Of course MTX work when the industry is so mainstream, people lie, cheat and pay to get ahead or feel better. MTX became what people feared. DLC became what people feared. And all the passive “go along with it” crowd say people are exaggerating etc, but just look at it. Gaming is virtually dead in relation to what gaming actually was, now it’s all just MTX, monetising everything, and making some of the most poor lacklustre games ever released - but they look all nice and shiny with zero atmosphere though so it’s ok.
But hey, who cares right? We can’t all be like Mr Sorzza.
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Lol i find it funny when players get hostile for being poor
Secondly it’s optional , no one needs to buy it. So buy or don’t buy it stop the QQ
The old ‘two wrongs make a right’ argument yet again. I can’t believe that this keep cropping up.
“He robbed a shop so it’s OK for me to rob a post office”
“They win trade in arena, so it’s OK for me to use LOS exploits in BGs”
“They level using crappy exploits, so it’s OK for me to pay real cash to skip levelling”
But it does matter. It affects everything about the game. It fosters a mindset whereby huge parts of the game’s content are considered obsolete until boosting past it becomes the norm. It creates a ‘GOGOGOGO’ retail mindset within a game that’s meant to be a carbon copy of an earlier period on WoW’s history, thus turning something that should be an RPG into a bland corridor shooter. It opens the door for further cash shop services further down the line. It creates massive armies of instant L58, Outland-ready bots who will absolutely trash the economy. It’s an utter violation of everything we asked for when we campaigned for WoW Classic.
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Ye, it really doesn’t. Did you complain about RAF boosted levels too?
Have you been living under a rock since the launch of Classic? The game was invested by those kinda of people, the AOE farmers, from day 1. It’s not Blizzard who destroys the spirit of the game, it’s your fellow Classic community with their boost spam, declining people for not having a meta spec, losing on purpose premade and more.
Or not, but it is a sliperly slope for sure. But the ingame shop has been there for ages now, and it’s still just cosmetics (and the token, which is understandable given the fact 3rd party goldselling was a battle they couldn’t win. Although I personally find the boost spam way more annoying than 3rd party goldspammers).
That’s pure speculation.
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its not about the money though.
If they would sell raid loot or pvp gear you wouldnt need to buy it ether but that would also still be wrong
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But they’re not. People have been saying it would come since the day they addes the cash shop, I’m still waiting.
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Didnt say they would just used it as a comparison, its stupid using you dont have to buy it as a exuse for wanting to pay to skip a important part of the game, and before you come back and say something about people boosting for gold im not a fan of that ether but thats not what this is about anyways.
Ye, it is stupid that people can skip an important part of the game, I fully agree. However, since we already had RAF, and it’s a one time only thing, it doesn’t bother me personally if people do it.
Obviously it’s a smart decision for players to make use of pay to win offers when they aren’t concerned about money.
The point is, IT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN THE GAME!
I can’t really respect people who buy the boost to save time because they don’t understand that they still waste their time while enabling bad practices in the video game industry.
We mostly play video games to waste time, that’s the purpose of them! Just because you had some enjoyment/entertainment does not mean the time is not wasted…
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I’m really tired of reading “pay to win”.
Being a lvl 58 with god awful green gear when the end-game is lvl 70 is not pay to win. You still have to lvl to 70 like everyone else and gear up.
There is no sense of pride or nothing to be gained from lvling to 60 if you’ve done it multiple times. If you enjoy it - great! go ahead and do it. I still enjoy it. But if someone wants to skip it ONE TIME then it really doesn’t bother me at all.
The game is full of in-game boosters, bots and people who optimise the fun out of it. People should be more pissed about Blizzard not destroying bots, but they choose to throw fits over people boosting one char. Probably the same people who buy mage boosts or gold.
Some people paying for a single lvl 58 shouldn’t really be high on the concern list when the long-term integrity of this games economy and community is pretty dire as it is.
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I don’t get why people are angry that blizzard is getting money. But totally fine to pay chinese bots. Imagine hating a company so much that you rather pay chinese bots over the company. If I was at that point I would quit long ago.
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I play them for fun, levelling in classic is not fun, especially multiple times. It is in fact so not fun that people buy gold to pay mages to do the content for them whilst they look at an instance wall.
I would happily pay £50-75 to jump right into the fun and not have to spend a few days looking at a wall or grinding boars AGAIN.
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Then we are more or less on the same page about it, I for one wouldnt /spit or anything like that on people who have bought it I just wish it wasnt in the game at all but now its and I will live with it and I will still play and enjoy the game.
Irrelevant. You still had to play the game with RAF boosts, you couldn’t skip anything. People keep bringing this up as if it’s some kind of magic bullet but it’s nonsense.
I hated RAF, but even if RAF WAS a ghastly pay to win service SO WHAT?
We’re just back on the ‘two wrongs make a right’ line yet again, and it’s wearying in the extreme.
“He boosted himself in 2007, so it’s OK for us to use pay to win in 2021”
Have you been living under a rock since the launch of Classic? The game was invested by those kinda of people, the AOE farmers, from day 1. It’s not Blizzard who destroys the spirit of the game, it’s your fellow Classic community with their boost spam, declining people for not having a meta spec, losing on purpose premade and more.
Yet another repetition of ‘two wrongs make a right’.
Or not, but it is a sliperly slope for sure. But the ingame shop has been there for ages now, and it’s still just cosmetics (and the token, which is understandable given the fact 3rd party goldselling was a battle they couldn’t win. Although I personally find the boost spam way more annoying than 3rd party goldspammers).
The fact that it’s ‘just cosmetics now’ does not indicate that it will remain that way in the future.
That’s pure speculation.
It is a logical assumption. Why would prolific botters not make use of a service that allows them to create literal armies of Outland-ready L58 bots at the click of a button? They’d be crazy not to.
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Pay for advantage then?
Depends on what definition you use if its pay to win or not I use the definition that includes paying for a advantage someone who have payed wont have. End game is not the entier game though kind of is in its name End Game so.
sounds like a you problem about the pride thing.
they are all bad but that dosnt meen that blizzard should have put in a boost anyways.
It wont be better by people being able to buy a boost though.
Then don’t read it. Close your eyes and scroll past it. Relax in the comfort of a fool’s paradise.
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