You’re so brave and cool, not bothered by these menial things of a hobby you enjoy and devout plenty of hours into.
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Hahaha, hold up I’m confused. I got many replies going on.
Right, I said why it’s different. When LfD is added, all people will automatically use it therefore you will be taken into the LFD train and from here many things change in the game’s dynamics. It’s safe to say it’s not the same with the boost, at least imo.
That is the most common argument I’ve seen against boosting or other skip features.
I agree with you to some extent. When you try to adapt the game to you, it can conflict with how the game was intended to be played. Fair enough.
However, I stand by my argument that the leveling boost is not a big deal. When the positives largely outnumber the negatives, I say some changes are worth it.
You gave a big list of negatives, to which I don’t agree completely but I consider your point of view and I validate your concerns.
Here is where I think the positives of the boost lie:
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A big refresh in the community. Many returning players who have experience in TBC from various sources (old retail players, private server players, TBC enthusiasts or even competent retail players). This can only be a good thing for the health of the game. More raids, more PvP, a larger economy. Nothing bad about it.
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A chance to create an alt for classes that struggle with gold farming or new players that have no friends to give them a hand. It’s a big deal really. Many old time Classic players will level in dungeons or with their friends. New people will struggle to find groups. Yes, xp will be nerfed but it will still be tough and take a couple of weeks the earliest (for the average player).
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Better leveling in Outland for everyone as people will flock to do dungeons for extra xp and rep. My friend and I will play healer and tank. Many more will contribute in a positive way.
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Much better resources for old time Classic players as many new players will farm materials for gold. Then you can put that gold to use and actually craft the gear you need much faster.
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Thanks, if only my 2 year felt the same way…
But many boosters are also illegitimate. They are part of the communities that will take your gold then sell it back to you. They’re also the ones taking your resources and then selling your gold to you.
I’m not talking about you in particular, I’m talking the community in general.
There’s people who will buy a whole new account with a max level character. They won’t come tell you they did it but I bet there’s wuite a few of them. You can’t ignore this.
Blizzard boost will cut many of these transactions.
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I have to agree with this.
There I said it.
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Blizzard boost will legitimate* many of these transactions.
Like I said, there’s 0 difference beyond who gets the cash. Be it Blizzard or the mage charging €
Do you think I, or anyone for that matter, care who gets the money? The issue is the same: paying cash for in-game boosts. Hell, I could even argue that it’s better that the euros go to some poor bloke who sees WoW boosts as a revenue rather than to a multi-billion dollar company.
But again, who gets the money couldn’t be more irrelevant. The issue is the same; people paying real cash for in-game benefits.
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good for you, so maybe wotlk is your version of the game not TBC?
very mature
maybe I do, and maybe players like me will just leave, and maybe you’ll lose more players then you gain with the boost
They wont do it coz they will get more money from players problems
P.S-iam not a hater and u are right
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That of course is a personal opinion and you’re absolutely entitled to it.
In a perfect World of Warcraft nobody would buy boosts and cheat. Sadly it happens and legitimizing it seems, to me, at least, a simple solution for people who don’t want to break the ToS but still look for the easy way out.
You can say that they deserve to be banned not encouraged. Sure, but sometimes, like you said, it’s hard to distinguish legitimate from illegitimate players. Making it official at least hits the gold sellers and gives a way for those of us to join the fun.
You’re absolutely free to dislike it and disagree with me. I respect that.
When the boost is added, all people (who can afford it) will automatically use it therefore you will be taken into the boosting meta where the most efficient way to get toons levelled is cash up and from here many things change in the game’s dynamics. It’s safe to say it is the exact same with LFD, at least imo.
I don’t think this is true, weigh my negatives vs ur positives, I don’t think the pros hold up.
I address this in the OP, I think you will lose just as many if not more players from the boost as you will gain. Also, many of those gained will most likely be temporary players as if they can’t commit enough to get to 58 in sped up classic levelling in tbc client, then they probably won’t have enough time / the will to commit the time required for 58-70 and the end game.
You don’t need dungeon grinding or even dungeons at all to reach level 60 in a reasonable amount of time. In fact, the first level 60 in classic didn’t dungeon grind.
There are already going to be plenty enough players to do dungeons and quests with in TBC with or without the boost. Too many players will just lead to frustration, especially when these players have no idea how to play their class due to them being a boost.
This only is true if the population is objectively increased by having the boost, which I think is a multi-factored discussion, one of which I have partially touched upon in my OP. I think, in short, that the population will not be increased long term.
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- What was all there when TBC came out? Did you even read my post?
- Nice retail character
- Nice trolling attempt
- I’m not the one asking for a paid character boost, I’m not a spoiled retail brat and I don’t know how that’s me saying “me me me me”.
- Go back to retail you can ask your mommy for her credit card and boost as many characters as you can there in a single day.
- Profit???
Can I have your gold then, given you intend to manipulate the economy with transmute sales I guess its gonna be a lot?
Look it’s simple, you got 4 options.
- Play retail, the TBC content is mostly the same.
- Play a pserver, but these usually dont have x1 XP and do have cash shops and character trades.
- Stop playing.
- Accept that blizzard are offering you the chance to replay a 14 year old game but with a couple changes. It’s a service they offer and to which you pay a sub. They can do what they want with it, they have most likely done a fair amount of market research on the issues. This is what they are offering, it’s more than fair.
Personally I like option 4.
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An elementary school level “love it orleave it” argument once again, here we go back to it.
Easy response: Yes it’s Blizzard’s game and they can do whatever they want to do with it. But the mouth is mine so I similarly can SAY whatever I want with it. Then Blizzard might be convinced and revert this change.
Now the stupid part is over let’s get back to talking about the level 58 boosts.
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How is it manipulation? It is quite normal to make alts for transmute cooldowns? The only difference is now, the most time-efficient way to get those alts up to the required level for the transmute is to buy a boost on a new account.
Also no, you can’t have my classic gold. Got a full thunderfury mats in my bank -1 binding and all the materials needed for scarab lord quest chain in my bags & bank as well + 700g in bag. (yes I failed to get both bindings in all of classic and am also a failed scarab lord attempter, shame on me)
if my problem is with the boost, how on earth would going to retail solve my problem?
Maybe I will but I’d much prefer to have a good blizzard-provided tbc instead
I might just do this too
I’m not opposed to #somechanges but not this change. They can do what they want, doesn’t mean I, or any other customer has to like it. Market research is for making money, not for the health of the product or quality of the RPG.
Imo, #somechanges needs a guideline. What guideline? Well, I think a good guideline for what changes should be added is this question. Does this change make the gaming experience of classic more similar to the gaming experience that players had back in the original release of the game? If the answer is yes, then make the change, if the answer is no then don’t change it.
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Its school level because it is that simple.
You dont have to pay or play, you are free to cancel your sub if you no longer like the service.
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I don’t think I ever said this? it’s pretty simple to make the distinction as someone involved in it. I’ve never paid my guildies euros for them to boost me, or I’ve never bought gold with euros to pay for such boosts in the form of gold.
And Blizzard has way more information than me in that aspect. GMs can easily have access to your gold transactions history whenever you have a problem with lost items or mistakes of that kind, let alone Blizzard itself on the servers.
It doesn’t matter. I couldn’t stress this enough. The problem is not that the people who does boosts-for-cash exist, the issue is that the boosts themselves exist.
It doesn’t matter who does it, it doesn’t matter if you get it in shady-website dot com or in Blizzard dot com. The problem is the same in both cases: paying cash for in-game benefits.
And Blizzard is well aware of this, and they purposelly ignore it. Do you have an idea of how many people constantly reports bots when they see one? do you have any idea how many bots I see when walking around Tanaris, Feralas or Azshara? It’s filled with rogues and hunters in green gear endlessly killing mobs in the same pattern over and over 24h a day. While leveling my mage in Feralas at 4 am I farmed like 15 HKs just in the way to do a quest and return, got my first PvP title that way with my mage.
People do report them, a guildie when he’s bored in SW during work or something literally does /who blackrock depths, whispers lvl 60 guildless rogues, then proceeds to report them.
And they’re not banned, there are no new ban waves. Now that they announced the lvl 58 boost it all makes sense. Blizzard wants to bank on all those shiny lvl 58 paladin bots!
It’s honestly disheartening to even think about this and how Blizzard chooses to have poor communities and economies in their realms because each bot is 13€ a month, and soon whatever € a boost costs.
It’s school level because it’s childish and an amateurish attempt to shut down a civil dialogue
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I’m not attempting to shut down anything, should you be putting words in my mouth, it is mine after all?
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Hardly the same thing. 1 boost per account is not as leveling multiple character via LFD.
Most people who kick and scream will continue playing TBC regardless. We all know that and Blizzard knows this.
False. Leveling in an expac you enjoy is totally different than going through the Vanilla experience that is clearly inferior to the Outland questing and takes much much longer.
Fair enough, fact is fact.
Most of the returning players are going to be familiar with how their class works. Some will be clueless but I think you’re underestimating how much anyone who touched WoW before can learn in those 12 levels of Outland.
It is a week of leveling still and there’s a lot of time to learn basic rotation and skills. M+ players from retail are a lot more knowledgeable and adaptable than you think.
You have an opinion, I have 4 people who resubbed for WoW TBC. I have no reason to doubt their intentions as they’re family members.
I would rather log into the forums and whine about it, thank you for the offer though.
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