Yes, i agree, its an opinion. And yes, ofc, ican be not true at all I belive that this can (will) happen, because: 1. is happend in the past and 2. maybe its just me, but i think blizzard kinda makes their decision when it comes to the game differently. It feels to be more profitorientated than before. Those two points only point in the direction but they ofc not proof them. But i think you know all of that and you can relate or should i say see, why “we” think that way.
seems resonalbe to think that they should know better… i would think so too. But action speeks louder than words ^^
“it would be ridiculous to force 20+ LW in a raid in tbc because of the drum” - this is not final, but its kinda worse now, or at least its still" ridiculous ".
“we will create a authentic classic experience” - iplement the boost 3 expensions prior before it was in the ingameshop in MOP for RL-Money.
"fun"note, the us forum is a battlefield in that debate, we are actually harmless in comparison to them
they do this allways that you have to play the expansion, so in wotlk there will be a lvl 68 boost, most likely.
china has a wow token for classic, we dont have it, yet.
yeah man, i feel you people are like people right ^^ Esp. when they get pushed against their belives ^^
start farming NOW you will need it ( i can only speak for myself ^^)
There are already guides for mages doing Mara or other pulls with AoE cap. In TBC aside of mages you will also have pala boosters/farmers.
Not really for a version of the game that wasn’t intended to be retail. “You think you do but you don’t”.
Nothing or run our own, as Blizzard isn’t interested as well.
It’s extremely hard to find someone leveling normally instead of being boosted in game. If Classic leveling was killed in game due to in game boosts and now we add “official” boosts then why not just retailize TBC and add full cash shop services, catchup mechanics, QoL drums, group finder changes and so on. And when Sunwell comes out update the shop boost to 70 with T4 gear. Recolor Ashes of Alar and put it on the cash shop as well.
Read everything and don’t try to answer things that I didn’t say in context.
Why are we discussing about future possibilities instead of what is happening right now?
Speak in context, Do not assume that the future will be like that. Speak about the announcement and the only announcement a ONCE per account boost.
Let’s say, the only thing that will be added is only this boost AND NOTHING else. Which is advertised and said in blizzcon.
If they add other things, then you will be right. But let’s discuss about things that is announced and not about speculation.
It didn’t only happen in retail. It happened in 10+ different MMOs I played, and it happened the exact same way on every single one of them. Retail was only one of those MMOs that lost all its meaning with paid services, not the only one.
Because MMOs provide 2 things, and these are both psychological facts about human existence.
Social fabric and the structure within the game. The game providing you reasons to come together and be with others - which comes from the tedious, boring, grindy, hard, whatever you might call it environment. If you feel safe and secure when you play solo and get things easily anyway, there is no need to be a part of a social group. This is again, human nature. Tedious, nerve-wrecking, annoying, challenging etc. things bring people together. Otherwise none gaf.
The feeling of accomplishment. This comes from exclusivity. And again, related to the first point, exclusivity is breed by the social fabric. Example: you have 50 people waiting in shattrath. If everyone is riding a gryphon, but there is this 1 dude that has a really cool looking mount - everyone clicks on him and inspects him. And this exclusivity, gives other players the aspiration to be like him, to be special. This motivation keeps everyone, including those players sitting on a gryphon, to build a desire to play the game more, to try their best, to get a better etc. If everyone is sitting on many different cool looking mounts, whether from cash shop or whatever, then none cares. None attaches himself to the game.
Same thing with boosts: If there is this dude in your guild with 5 level 60 characters, other players look up to him and say “wow dude that is amazing I will start levelling an alt too”. I got these sort of whispers from hundreds of people. Having many characters is time invested in the game - and motivates other people to do it.
If paid boosts are in the game, when you click on someone with another alt - you don’t say “wow this guys worked real hard”, you say “did he level it himself or did he buy a boost, hmm?” Paid boosts kill a big part of the game - the exclusivity of having something.
Once again, this didn’t accidentally happen in only one game. In whichever game I played, whenever ingame shops got added to the game, people started to feel less and less attached and addicted to that game, every . single . time.
But this doesn’t happen immediately. This happens in the long run, after a few months you will see more and more people quitting the game. They won’t feel attached to it anymore. They won’t feel satisfied. The feeling of accomplishment will slowly fade away. People will feel like there is nothing to do in the game anymore because they will feel like things aren’t rewarding anymore. This will happen over time.
O V E R T I M E.
Bots can use many accounts. People getting one additional alt for profession cooldowns or druid gatherers to undermine existing characters work. Once per account means very little.
The dude is so unreal, he is repeating the same arguments that everyone already left a month ago. He is at the very basics.
Like he probably didn’t even read a single forum thread or reddit post before making a video.
This is your opinion, but from what i’ve read in the past. The microtransactions didn’t kill the game, it was the many patches / expansions that made past patches/expansions irrelevant.
It was the world being too easy, no sence of danger, No sence of actual progression because of various systems.
Retail being Systemland instead of being one cohesive game ( like Classic, TBC and Wotlk, i would even say up to MoP).
Retail being lobby game and having no need to interact with people to achieve SMALL things.
Retail forgetting the MMO aspect of an MMORPG.
Cashshops is just the tip of the iceberg.
Why are we discussing about things that could happen instead of things ALREADY happening in classic ???
I only see strawmans, and what-ifs but nobody is talking FACTs or ACTUAL things happening in Classic / TBC ( and please, let’s stop talking about Retail, because that’s just another MMO, It is not the same game anymore. Even the devs are not the same.)
Bots is a problem even without boost, why are we omitting that fact?
Even without the boost, the problem is still there?
People already have all their alts ready for transmutes and other things?
And guys that are against the boost don’t use the same arguments over and over again?
Why are you still talking about what-ifs instead of actual implementation and solutions to ACTUAL probblems in Classic.
You are the only strawman here I’m afraid, go watch a few actual discussion videos about it and get educated next time when you make a video about something you have absolutely no idea of.
You don’t interact with anyone when you raidlog in classic. Maybe aside of when getting worldbuffs and you need a portal. The raids are trivial compared to modern and class stacking or world buffs trivializes it even more.
There was no singular reason why WoW went the way it went.
Wouldn’t call Classic cohesive, especially when you want to play non-meta classes or specs. Or when you want to remove leveling out of the equation.
Because with boost they can instantly go into BRD pickpocket farm and overall their profitability even with paid boost goes beyond the roof.
If you spent time to make alts then why someone else should get the same result instantly for just paying for it?
The boost will not effect anybody. Only those fools who think they can decide how other’s should play a game.
Good thing that Blizzard is in charge and not these blind fools.
You anti boosters can always make your own game or host your own private server.
Wouldn’t that be great? Your rules, your “friends” and a total of 200 players, what fun that would be.
TBC will flourish because of the boost. Many many oldskool players will come and enjoy tbc because of the boost.
Good thing Blizzard has brains to see this. You unfortunate lot obviously cannot see behind your short noses.
Well, boost i shere to stay, do not like it? Then go play something else like retail.
It is not like “there are bots” and “there are no bots” or “there are xmute alts” “there are no xmute alts”.
There will be MORE bots. Yes there are bots, but this opens the way to have MORE of them. What is so hard to understand about it? Having 1000 bots on a server and 10000 bots on a server makes a big difference.
Transmute alts are fine if people spent their time to get them instead of using their credit cards. Do you think someone who spent hundreds of hours to level and alt to use it as a xmute alt is the same thing as someone making 10 transmute alts spending 0 minutes in the game and using his credit card?
Dude, you are as I said above, at the very basics. We discussed these like a month ago, holy moly.
Again, An Ad Hominem attack. Could you please react on what I said instead of waving the ‘’ actual discussion videos’’ , what you actually mean is ‘’ videos that i like because they share the same opinion as me’’.
So you are now deciding we should play with boost?
Citation needed. Also why aren’t they already preparing for TBC? If they got friends in Classic they can get in-game level 60 boost via mages for free.
Also existing mega-realms are already overpopulated for TBC zones. Mass layering will be a thing.
You take everything out of context.
you said that Cashshop and microtransactions made the game how it is in Retail.
While I state things that changed ASWELL, and that people complained about those things and not only about the cashshop being here.
I don’t like how you discuss things, you take everything out of context, omit what you said before and take my take and turn it around to give it your sauce.
Maybe because they don’t want to be afk to get boosted?
Maybe people want to spend their time doing something they like instead of something like mage boosting?
I belive that this can (will) happen, because: 1. is happend in the past and 2. maybe its just me, but i think blizzard kinda makes their decision when it comes to the game differently. It feels to be more profitorientated than before. Those two points only point in the direction but they ofc not proof them. But i think you know all of that and you can relate or should i say see, why “we” think that way.
you will need it ( i can only speak for myself ^^)