Seems like bots are a problem but i don’t understand it.
Why are there so many bots in this game? Its basically a 15 year old game with pretty easy content.
I haven’t used a bot, i wouldn’t even know how to do it. Still i have more gold than i need and almost every item in the game that i want. I don’t know what benefits i would get from botting and at this point i don’t know what others get from it?
If they are farming gold to sell it for RL money then why is this such a lucrative business? Are people living in such poor countries that they really start botting for RL money?
Are there so many players who want to buy gold? Those players are basically responsible for the botting problem.
Who are the players who need to buy gold in this game? I would guess it’s most likely a Hand of Rag or Thunderfury user because these items are pretty expensive. Nothing else is really expensive in this game…
So please enlighten me, why are there so many bots and why is it a problem? I feel those bots don’t matter to me at all…
google current wow gold prices (go find the cheapest you can) and tell me its not worth it to have a bot basically generating free money for your bank account.
you literally have to do nothing, and money just streams into your wallet by itself,
its incredibly lucrative.
if you got a bot that can generate say 200g per hour, without you having to lift a finger, you can make about 200-300 Euro every 24 hours provided there are customers buying it… which, judging by the fact that people do it, there definitely is.
oh and if you think this has no effect on you, then you might wanna look into the concept of inflation… the more gold there is in circulation, the more you, personally, have to farm to keep up if you plan to get consumables and items.
inb4 being accused of botting/gold selling based on the knowledge of this.
Bots/Gold farmers are making a killing considering irl money. Just look at old school runescape, Google Venezuela goldfarmers osrs. They earn a living playing osrs:)
Okay but when it’s such a lucrative business then it means that players want to buy gold. Players want to buy gold but don’t want to have bots in the game?
So i guess it’s not the same players - we would need to have some data on how many players are buying gold and how many players complain about it.
Inflation is a good point but still if everything gets more expensive for everyone then it’s not really a bad thing for me as an individual. I will sell my sh!t for more too…
Imo, gold buyers are mostly players who dont have much time or dont want to spend time grinding gold.
They want to avoid boring/time consuming activities, so they can buy items needed for their main interest - speedrunning raids.
For them, their time has more value than money, so they just skip grinding.
I was at crossroads - buying gold or hardcore raiding. Didnt want to buy gold out of principle, so I gave up raiding requiring gold for flasks and pots.
As casual, I dont really need gold for anything.
Okay but when it’s such a lucrative business then it means that players want to buy gold. Players want to buy gold but don’t want to have bots in the game?
that is indeed very puzzling. you could ask 100% of the playerbase if they ever bought gold before, and i’m like 99% sure all of them (yes all) would say “no i haven’t”… the numbers and lucrativeness of the gold selling trade clearly proves otherwise though.
There can’t be that many hardcore raiders who don’t want to farm gold that they create a market for gold sellers? Classic wow isn’t even a cool game for hardcore raiders? Maybe with AQ or Naxx but not for now…
Raiding for me is a gold income at the moment , not a gold sink ^^
Goldselling means a decent RL salary in most of the countries. Only countries like Switzerland, USA, probably Germany and UK are excluded - and even there goldselling may mean okay-ish salary.
it works kind of like the government. they use a fake currency (paper) and inject more of it into the economy so you have to work twice as hard to get the same value you would’ve previously got from it and then sell your money back to you for something that has real value (could be gold or just work) :))
It’s 500g per £7.63 or so, so minimum wage in the UK (At least if you’re 21 is £8.20)
It’s simply not worth it at all in the UK, unless you can earn more than 500g/H.
It’s mostly just either Eastern European side (where average wage is like 300 eur per month…) or poor countries of Asia.
have you tried working 12h shift for 2-5 dollars per day?
And why to buy? I got kids, no time to play the game, I got real life, u know. One of those lines normally follows.
It’s a matter of cost-benefit. If the chance of getting banned is low enough, it will be profitable. If blizzard banned both bots and gold buyers frequently there wouldn’t be much of a market left.
Even if they don’t work full time, it’s not worth it in the UK.
You literally need to earn over 500 gold per hour in order to make it even worth a job.
Unless they don’t have any job at all and they can’t get one… it’s the only viable one.
There are fewer bots than you might think. The core of the issue is that the bots are not being banned.
You’ve just been seeing the same (relatively) few bots for the past 6 months.
It’s not like on pservers where 3000 new bots were created and then banned, every week.
The money you can make from botting is ludicrous but not just for the people in poor countries as a successful gold seller can make A LOT of money for little risk - Account gets banned? No problem they have hundreds more and they can fund them from WoW tokens from bottin in retail which makes it even more risk free. Imagine having a gold selling company with hundreds of accounts and characters across each server and having a huge supply of gold on each server and faction. Now imagine you sell 1000g for £30-40 and you have an endless supply of gold and a lot of people buying from you daily.
Don’t underestimate how much gold these guys sell on a daily basis. You may think gold farming is easy but for someone who is working full time I’m pretty sure a lot of people would prefer to work 2-4 hours and buy gold than spend hours in game farming it. They make their money off players looking for convenience and they make a lot of it.
But it doesn’t stop at gold selling they also sell boosts, accounts or will level your character for you. Just going on google and finding a site I can see power leveling services from 1-60 for around 270 euros and you can guarantee there are people who use these services. Then you’ve got companies who buy accounts and resell them for more I actually read an article a few months back about a guy who made a fortune doing this.
TLDR: You can make an absolute fortune with botting.
Edit: Some of these replies - do you really think these gold selling companies are only running 1 account to farm? They will have multiple accounts and computers running at once and they can pay for the cost of these computers and accounts from the money they make selling gold then once the overheads are paid it’s all profit.
Not necessary hardcore raiders, when you see that even casual/normal/non-try-hards guilds or even PU raids are asking you to come raiding with the WB and full flasks… Im not raiding because of this. This is crazy… you don’t need WB or full pots if you know what to do in raids now that everybody as a bit of stuff gear…
