Why vulpera?

[Rektem-stormscale (Rektem)]

@Brigante-argent-dawn

That is actually a good point. No one is sexualising the Vulpera apart from those who have an unhealthy obsession with sexualising the Vulpera, who are generally…those insisting there is something sexual about it. I mean that’s not what I see, when I see a Vulpera character, I don’t find them ‘sexy’ So who exactly is the ‘degenerate’ here?

Obviously you stick your head in the sand when Vulpera players literally behave this way lol

@Brigante-argent-dawn

I Literally stated Mar’gok. Gorgog is historical (Although I love the idea of him killing Gronn to prove that they were not Gods) and Cho’gall is hardly a barometer of what could make a good player character.

Ogre culture, you wouldn’t get it.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Anthropomorphic humanoids. You can’t claim they ain’t Furry material…

There’s quite a big difference in monster looking “fur” people than this disneyfied mess.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Probably a reason for that. If they were memorable, I would have remembered them. I mean I remember Cho’gall, but thats hardly a good look.

Because you’re out of touch with certain points in the lore?

@Brigante-argent-dawn

I’ll take ‘powerful’ but I’ll pass on ‘Wise’ as we don’t really see that at all in game or story.

It was thanks to the Ogre magi that Gul’dan could bypass the barrier in Eversong Woods

@Brigante-argent-dawn

You ever seen the film, or as I believe the current TV Series “Dune”?
Yeah, the Fremen. That’s your Vulpera right there.

Nope, I don’t need to see some out of game reference to see who Vulperas cater towards lol

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Well, Given their origins you could go several ways with it, I mentioned the Fremen from Dune, that works as an ethos, you could also go with the piratical side, or you could go with 1,001 Arabian Nights and the multitude of concepts in there. My Vulpera is a sailor, a smuggler, but not a pirate, he loves all the foreign lands and the weird and wonderful creatures he sees and sometimes has to fight, and getting rich. He’s basically Sinbad the Sailor. Because the Vulpera are a perfect culture for someone like that to have come from.

Literally every race could roleplay as a pirate, as it referenced ingame. Even Taurens could be pirates. I don’t see what’s so piraty about little furballs.
And besides, you assume that every Vulpera player sees them this way. You’re in the minority for that one.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

I’ve never said there -shouldn’t be Ogres- I have simply said that as they are currently I don’t find them appealing, and why?

There’s Alliance for you.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

You were doing so well till the acronym. As if they’re not popular because you find them sexualised, ‘LoL’

Me doing well? Are you the referee and both the person argueing? lol? Quit being delusional. If most of the Vulpera players I encountered ingame act out exactly like the people who /lick (no seriously, I joined a timewalk and there was a vulpera who /licked me)
So is it my fault most Vulpera players act out stereotypically? If I sexualized them wouldn’t I be playing one?

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Err, yes? They’re super turbo powered ninjamatic musclebound people with Katana’s. They are totally and completely designed for the Weeabo market, just get over it.

It literally was one dev who thought it would be funny to add a katana and a blademaster samurai, you act like they’re massive weebs. So it’s not okay to ever add katanas or a guy with an “accent”? It’s just a cool reference to samurai.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Right OK, let’s throw out the Cannibalistic part, as there is no evidence at all that Vulpera are Cannibalistic, nor any suggestion that they are.

They have tails of their own kind hanging on their wagon

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Murderous? That sounds like most Horde races.
Thieves? That sounds like most Horde races.
Scavengers? Well that sounds like some Horde races, but also they live in a freakin’ desert? How are they meant to survive, clapping their hands and thinking happy thoughts?

They’re not murderous. They’re scavengers at best, and no, there’s not a “scavenging” Horde race.
Also, who says the Alliance can’t be Murderours or Thieves? That’s not a Horde “trait”.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

What the…? Do you actually know how the Minotaur came to be? Because by the way it was Minotaur singular, there was only ever one, slain by Theseus.

I’ll put it gently. They could also be classed as Furries. I mean I have one myself, same as I have a Vulpera, You can’t deny that Tauren are not catering to the Furry market, when they fit the exact definition of that market.

They’re an adaptation of a folklore in a fantasy game. No way are they furries at all. They do not cater to the furry market. They do not fit any definitions of the furry market.

And yes I’ve read the book for a school work.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

They completely are.

No they are not. You’re just using that as a cope. No one back in the day played Taurens because they were cute and furry. They were menacing and big monsters.

Cope.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Do you know what the Horde -does- actually stand for?

Clearly better than you if you think it’s all but murderers and thieves.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

There was only ever one.

Yes and they exactly look like one!

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Because those are completely two things you don’t need in a desert where regenerating people are literally sent to die. -lol-

They obviously adapted and evolved biologically toward to withstand their environment. Obviously Zandalari Trolls aren’t biologically equipped to deal with the Desert. Maybe the Sandfury Trolls are, but Zandalari aren’t Sandfury trolls.

Not one time was a vulpera shaman showcase in Vol’dun haha. Not one time were the elements referenced.
They were just used to living in a desert. They evolved that way. They didn’t need the elements to survive.

[Zlcx-the-shatar]

i log in on my vulpera all female blood elves in silvermoon comes petting me .
dont be so yelly that Vulpera gets all the girls …

[Velharia-argent-dawn]

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Bizarrely the most Homoerotic combination in the game. “I’m going to get all angry, and work a sweat up, and then wear some BDSM gear and hang out with other big muscly people who have a sweat up and wear some BDSM gear, and growl at each other”

Seriously, Male Orcs are more homoerotic than the Volleyball scene in ‘Top Gun’, and that was pretty homoerotic. Just to clarify, there is nothing wrong with homoeroticism, not my cup of tea personally, but y’know, it be cool. Male Orcs are depicted that way, just embrace it man, like you’d embrace your burly sweaty Orc man.

Orc Warrior challenges Orc Rogue to an honourable locker room duel:

van darkholme intro

[Frizzle-defias-brotherhood]

@Rektem-stormscale

There’s quite a big difference in monster looking “fur” people than this disneyfied mess.

“monster”

not “disneyfied”

I get what you’re saying but taurens have changed quite the bit over the years from how they were portayed

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@Frizzle-defias-brotherhood

I get what you’re saying but taurens have changed quite the bit over the years from how they were portayed

Yes and I hate the way that Blizzard “remastered” them. But you can’t say that Blizzard went with this depiction from the start. They were clearly more monster like from the start. Even those in WC3 sound menacing.

But then again, new devs took over and this is where they want to head down towards. It’s sad to see.

[Niirah-argent-dawn]

Mad cuz playing worst looking race in the game I see. :^)

[Rektem-stormscale (Rektem)]

If you say it so yourself, but why post that on a vulpera?

[Oari-argent-dawn]

hmmmm
i still hope we get playable Ogres and Hozen for Horde.
And Arrakoa and Jinyu for the Alliance.
Maybe even Mogu and Sethrak.

there is room for everyone!

[Yuxu-argent-dawn]

i am the bigest playboy on the server i have 5 wifes

[Souldefíler-silvermoon (Souldefíler)]

@Rektem-stormscale

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Probably a reason for that. If they were memorable, I would have remembered them. I mean I remember Cho’gall, but thats hardly a good look.

Because you’re out of touch with certain points in the lore?

LAWL.

Ohhhhhhh LORD! Oh you poor poor sweet summer child…

[Namr-chamber-of-aspects]

@Rektem-stormscale

They have tails of their own kind hanging on their wagon

As far as I’m aware it was confirmed that the tails hanging on the wagons aren’t vulpera tails. They’re just a handmade decoration. The vulpera most certainly aren’t cannibals, nor do I believe that Blizzard would ever depict a playable race as such. They even made the Darkspear trolls forsake cannibalism with the launch of Vanilla/Classic.

[Rektem-stormscale (Rektem)]

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

LAWL.

Ohhhhhhh LORD! Oh you poor poor sweet summer child…

It’s normal that people can’t know everything about lore. That’s why I said “certain points”. Brigante obviously has no love for Ogres so I’m guessing he doesn’t know much about noteable Ogre characters.

Also “sweet summer child”.
Reddit is down the hallway to the left.

[Souldefíler-silvermoon (Souldefíler)]

@Rektem-stormscale

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

I could see them as Horde, but as nothing more as footsoldiers

Wrong, they are skilled in shamanism, shadow priests, arcane and fel. They also have hunters with pets.

So…

Footsoldiers.

Like all the players are.

[Souldefíler-silvermoon (Souldefíler)]

@Rektem-stormscale

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

LAWL.

Ohhhhhhh LORD! Oh you poor poor sweet summer child…

It’s normal that people can’t know everything about lore. That’s why I said “certain points”. Brigante obviously has no love for Ogres so I’m guessing he doesn’t know much about noteable Ogre characters.

Also “sweet summer child”.
Reddit is down the hallway to the left.

Nah been there, last I saw it was full of people complaining that their favourite race wasn’t an allied race…

Oh and just out of interest, how much are you willing to bet on how much Ogre law brigante knows?

[Yuxu-argent-dawn]

who says we Vulpera are cannibals ? all i eat is desert flower seeds farmed in Vul’dun …

[Namr-chamber-of-aspects]

Rektem called them cannibals because of the tails hanging from the vulpera wagons.

[Rektem-stormscale (Rektem)]

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

So…

Footsoldiers.

Like all the players are.

Oh you’re one of those people who like Marvel superpowers in characters like Thrall and Jaina?

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

Nah been there, last I saw it was full of people complaining that their favourite race wasn’t an allied race…

Ogres aren’t an allied race, but a core race

[Souldefíler-silvermoon (Souldefíler)]

@Velharia-argent-dawn

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Bizarrely the most Homoerotic combination in the game. “I’m going to get all angry, and work a sweat up, and then wear some BDSM gear and hang out with other big muscly people who have a sweat up and wear some BDSM gear, and growl at each other”

Seriously, Male Orcs are more homoerotic than the Volleyball scene in ‘Top Gun’, and that was pretty homoerotic. Just to clarify, there is nothing wrong with homoeroticism, not my cup of tea personally, but y’know, it be cool. Male Orcs are depicted that way, just embrace it man, like you’d embrace your burly sweaty Orc man.

Orc Warrior challenges Orc Rogue to an honourable locker room duel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTRUFIa6R0A

By an amazing coincide they also had a good run in the 80’s and 90’s WWF…

WWF Tribute - Demolition

[Souldefíler-silvermoon (Souldefíler)]

@Rektem-stormscale

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

So…

Footsoldiers.

Like all the players are.

Oh you’re one of those people who like Marvel superpowers in characters like Thrall and Jaina?

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

Nah been there, last I saw it was full of people complaining that their favourite race wasn’t an allied race…

Ogres aren’t an allied race, but a core race

1. can you PLAY as Thrall or Jaina?
   No. They are important lore characters. It would stand to reason their powers are vastly superior to ours. You. Are not. Same as I’m not an important lore character Ergo if we were to stand toe to toe with either Thrall or Jaina the contest would be over before they even deigned to notice our challenge…

So a playable Ogre would be a foot soldier. Regardless of whether he or she was hurling huge balls of searing plasma or swinging a huge chopper round their head. Not sure why you are dragging marvel Super hero powers into this though.
Last i saw vast majority of WoW’s spells and techniques look straight from a comic book. But you do you.

2. If they were core they appear to be missing from the original roster from Vanilla WoW.

Ergo they would be Allied.

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@Souldefíler-silvermoon

1. can you PLAY as Thrall or Jaina?
   No. They are important lore characters. It would stand to reason their powers are vastly superior to ours. You. Are not. Same as I’m not an important lore character Ergo if we were to stand toe to toe with either Thrall or Jaina the contest would be over before they even deigned to notice our challenge…

And?

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

So a playable Ogre would be a foot soldier. Regardless of whether he or she was hurling huge balls of searing plasma or swinging a huge chopper round their head. Not sure why you are dragging marvel Super hero powers into this though.
Last i saw vast majority of WoW’s spells and techniques look straight from a comic book. But you do you.

But how is this an argument that Ogres can’t be a playable race because of that?

@Souldefíler-silvermoon

2. If they were core they appear to be missing from the original roster from Vanilla WoW.

Because these “allied” races literally joined us last expansion, both the Stonemaul clan and the Ogres within Duskwallow Marsh, aswell as the Raventusk tribe have been allied with the Horde since day 1. So its safe to say they’re more of a core race than these “allied” subraces.