You did not answer my question though.
I answered you.
This really, blizzard ruined this for people that liked Torghast by both not commiting and expanding on it so they don’t make it lame for people that don’t like it, and by nerfing it because of the people that already don’t like it complaining.
I’d really rather they just make it - its own separate content for now.
No there isnt a rule but if you put a different game genre in an MMO and then make it mandatory a lot of people wont be happy
When a key part is locked behind a mode that isn’t what you payed for I think they should be.
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Except all those sources give skewed results because dissatisfied people tent to voice their opinion more often than satisfied ones so there is no credible evidence that there is any majority 
guys i think we need another torghst nerf some people still can’t do it even with nerfs 
If someone says that MMO’s can’t have other modules, the person in question should have a citation for that. Balancing is the trick, however that does not automatically mean “me no liky, remove it” on base value.
Also if you insist on butting in a conversation, that I did not initiate with you, do not expect of me to keep a track on your random one off posts.
Where do you want me to even start with?
The assumption that “Because you play it that way?”
You have no bloody idea how I play, even though a quick look up shows that I am extremely mediocre player currently on pure technical level. You also have no idea “what I play” or with “whom I play”, or god forbid “what do I play for”, it is just a mighty feel over facts rant.
You want a clear picture? - 90% of the time I am playing for pure mechanical fun of pressing a button and seeing the result. This includes PVE, PvP, M+ and majority of the side content (if you can describe it as such) in the game. I rarely look up guides, and if I do it is only when the in game information is not sufficient and it already broke my neck.
I am playing for comfort and personal satisfaction, not for tempo, not for big epeen and certainly not so I can carry people around in the game.
However, here is where there is a big difference in our “play styles”. I do not expect for me to type in “water” and to get as a result “fire”. I do not expect that content will go around and bend over a semi afk state of mind. If a content in which I am participating wants my active attention, it will receive it as long as I enjoy it or it’s rewards even remotely.
Do you think I picked a DK because it is meta - no, I have played the class and it’s specs for the last 6 + years.
Do you think I play only DK - dead wrong, It is one out of 3 classes I rotate (Mage, Hunter, DK as they have vastly different expected behavior).
Honestly I am so fed up and tired of people accusing me of being lucker (when all of my in game achievements came from my personal input), try hard, meta slave or whatever else they think it is okay to call other players as CoC allows to act extremely toxic as long as it is towards a specific person. I don’t care enough for what you find “fun” in the game, but I care enough to stand up for it and defend it if someone tries to take it away, yet every bloody time something that “the community” (aka the silent minority with big ego trips) bashes I should shut up and not tell people they are refusing to expand their world view?
And I am supposed to be the toxic, sweaty try hard that does not care for other people?
Pass.
sorry. i didnt read all the info. But for solo players nothin changes, exactly?
Nerfs for solo too, you get more anima choices.
disappointing. thanks for info!
Wait, I think my phrasing was bad - There are nerfs for solo too + you get the more anima choices. So if you are looking for solo change, there is.
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ah… worse … it was boring as hell but i never wanted a nerf. il try this wikend and ill check differences
Thanks Deadduchess
You litterally read my post as an attack on you.
BUt no where in your post you discuss what I actually posted.
I am playing for comfort and personal satisfaction, not for tempo, not for big epeen and certainly not so I can carry people around in the game.
If you dont, Why are you defending the difficulty of one progressive item (and 4 if you play a certain class…)
But keep reffering to CoC with your whole post >.>
Said everyone who had proper gear or skill. Meanwhile ironically the whiners don’t even have NORMAL raid ilvl.
You guys put no effort into an mmorpg but expect to get everything on day 1. You might want to do something about that meantility or you will have a hard time in life.
Because it was personally satisfying? It is also 3 + items in my case.
Only evidance we have to work with. IF “the majority” cared so much they should have spoke. No good crying after you’ve elected trump…
But I get where you’re going. The silent majority and the vocal minority? Don’t exist where business is concerned. “He who pays the piper calls the tune” 
So you shove your ideals into something else then, give us a better solution?
Do that stuff ffor cosmetics, not for stuff that means progression.
Its simple. Cant deny that.
You shove your ideas, I and multiple people have asked multiple times to add soul ash to various activities in the game and not keep it in thorgast as it is not healthy system regardless of how much you personally enjoy it.
I did, Bud, plenty of times. But more often then not two people tend to jump me, or try to.